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Rich

03-24-2004 09:21:12




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I have an 8N that I used regularly. I let it sit over the winter of 2002-2003 and in the spring it wouldn't start. after some investigation I replaced the battery, spark plugs/wires, and the coil. Tractor started up, ran for 10 minutes and blew the coil.

I am tempted to go buy the 12V conversion package and replace all of this (the previous owners had converted it and it looks a little questionable).

Any thoughts/suggestions?

I don't know a whole lot so talk slow - I'll catch on. :)

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Danny in CO

03-25-2004 06:31:43




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 Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Rich, 03-24-2004 09:21:12  
Rich,

Here is the correct wiring diagram for a front mount 8N with 12 volt conversion with a 6 volt coil.

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If you have a 12 volt coil, you will need 1/2 ohm 10 watt resistor in place of the ballast resistor and the addition resistor.

Good luck,
Danny



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Rich

03-25-2004 07:54:34




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 Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Danny in CO, 03-25-2004 06:31:43  
thanks.

I will get to work on it and let you guys know how I do.



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old

03-24-2004 10:02:09




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 Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Rich, 03-24-2004 09:21:12  
Sounds like some one left out one of the resistors if not both of them and thats why you blew the coil



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Rich

03-24-2004 10:18:22




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 Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to old, 03-24-2004 10:02:09  
Does anyone know where I could get a wiring diagram for a 12V Converted 8N so I can check out all of the connections.

It would not suprise me if something is not right there or if some electrical component has gone bad.

Thanks again...



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souNdguy

03-24-2004 12:16:02




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Rich, 03-24-2004 10:18:22  
You didn't mention front or side mount..

Depending on your setup, you could need any 1 or 2 of 3 possible resistor(s). There is the infamous oem ballast resistor
part number: A8NN12250B Resistor And Mounting Block Assembly 1939-47 A8NN 12250A Resistor And Mounting Block Assembly 1948-50 The 12to6v dropping resistor
part number: 8NE 10306 Resistor (Used To Reduce 12 Volt To 6 Volt) And a current limiting resistor 'trick' cooked up by fellow listmember 'Dell', which is merely a 2-pack of radioshack 1 ohm 10 watt resistors twisted together piggyback ( in parallel ) to make a 1/2 ohm 20 watt resistor. What you need depends on what you have as electrical equipment. If you have a real 12v side mount round can coil.. you don't need anything. If you have a newer 12v front mount coil, use the 'trick' resisitor Dell cooked up. If you have a 6v side mount round can coil, use the 12to6 dropping resistor. If you have a front mount square 6v coil, you will need both the 12to6v dropping resistor and the appropriate ballast resistor
(A8NN 12250A 1948-50 8N ). If you need more info, let us know. Also.. if you have a side mount round can coil, make sure you hook the polarity up correctly.. otherwise you will loose some sparkies.. On your 12v.. if it is an alternator it is most likely negative ground.. if it is a genny.. it could be either.
Some round can coils are marked +/- some are marked batt/distribuitor . ( think of batt as negative and distrib as pos for the oem setup.. ) Hook up accordingly.. distribuitor is ground.(via points ). so if neg grnd.. hook '-' or dist to distribuitor.. and hook up '+' or batt to the ignition wire from your dash. If a front mount coil.. don't worry about it.. it is hardwired anyway.. and you can't really change it.


Try nseries (dot) com and look under wire diagrams if you need one. Though these tractor electrical systems are prety easy to go thru.

If in doubt.. get a new wire harness.. or just bypass it for testing purposes using lenghts of jumper wire to connect the switch, resistor(s) and coil.. etc.

hollar' if you need mor einfo.

Soundguy

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Rich

03-25-2004 04:55:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to souNdguy, 03-24-2004 12:16:02  
Hey thanks to everybody on all of the good info.

it is a front mount coil... THANKS!



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Russ in SoCal

03-24-2004 10:35:32




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Rich, 03-24-2004 10:18:22  
Tack this to yer "favorites"



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Loren Boehm

03-24-2004 14:51:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Russ in SoCal, 03-24-2004 10:35:32  
so let see,you think someones hardship is funny,the only thing Iam laughing at is you and your shallowness,



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souNdguy

03-24-2004 15:25:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to Loren Boehm, 03-24-2004 14:51:20  
?????



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dan ny

03-24-2004 15:51:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to souNdguy, 03-24-2004 15:25:19  
What was up with that post?



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Russ in SoCal

03-25-2004 00:20:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils. in reply to dan ny, 03-24-2004 15:51:19  
The link didn't post. And anybody else could have posted the link just as well.



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souNdguy

03-25-2004 06:31:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils in reply to Russ in SoCal, 03-25-2004 00:20:58  
I mentioned the link.. but I doubted that we would be able to post it.. etc..

Soundguy



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Rich

03-25-2004 04:57:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N - blowing coils in reply to Russ in SoCal, 03-25-2004 00:20:58  
thanks!



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