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Adam

04-21-2004 15:46:38




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I was hoping someone on this discussion forum could help me, I have a 9N tractor that I just aquired, it is different than other 9N's I've had the fenders are mounted on the axle housing in a narrower position also the rear axles are smooth in the center the rear wheels are deep. in other words they look reversed? the serial# is I2792 I think it is a 1940?I'm wondering how many of these were made. Someone has told me it is very rare.

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souNdguy

04-22-2004 05:02:02




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 Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 15:46:38  
Just from looking at it.. it looks like a normal smooth hub 9n.. nice front rims though.. Rear rims are adjusted to a wide stance. I beam radious rods.. but vertical grill bars. Looks like you missed the alumin stuff.. but no biggie there.. the grills generally don't survive anyway.

Nice tractor... love those front tires

Soundguy



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9n141

04-21-2004 18:15:38




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 Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 15:46:38  
I have 1940 - 9ns with ser #s - 9n12321, 9n12433, 9n26867, 9n33509, 9n38383 all 5 tractors have 32" x 9 or 9.5 rear tires, smooth hubs, alum dash etc., 4 spoke steering wheels, chrome rad cap. Orig. rear tires were 32x8. Hpoe this helps. Burt. For photo of 1940 go to: www.burthudson.com/tractors.



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Found it--Jeb2N

04-21-2004 18:09:11




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 Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 15:46:38  
AHA! I found it...on marvin Baumann's page (of course!)...the infamous Vineyard model. Check it out here.



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Adam

04-21-2004 18:25:09




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 Re: Re: Ford 9N in reply to Found it--Jeb2N, 04-21-2004 18:09:11  
Jeb; Thats it the 9N is Identical as the one in Marvin Baumanns collection although it looks like the one in his collection is an 8N . Anyway thanks to all.If anyone is interested I am selling this tractor if interested feel free to contact me Thanks Adam



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roger '40 9n

04-21-2004 16:30:34




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 Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 15:46:38  
Serial number 9N12792 would be an early 1940 9N. You smooth hubs are consistant with that number. I would not say that the smooth rear hubs are _Very_ rare. My 9N has them. I do not know when the change was made to the riveted style. A manufacturing defect caused many of the smooth hubs to break so most of them were replaced with the riveted style.

The tread width is adjustable from 48" to 76". Looks like someone widened out your tread.

The fender mounting pads are cast with the rear axle trumpets so that would be hard to change. I just measured mine at 14" from the fender bolts to the differential housing flange. They might look narrower because the wheels were widened.

If you have an early '40 as your engine serial number suggests then you should have an aluminum dash, aluminum transmission cover and the hydraulic dip stick in the trans cover. The front spindle grease zerks should be on the front of the spindles.

Question for the other folks on this board: My right side hydraulic inspection cover, where most N's have a hydraulic dip stick, is made of aluminum. Did they change that to steel when they put the hydraulic dip stick in it?

Roger in Michigan

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Jeb2N

04-21-2004 17:53:59




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 Re: Re: Ford 9N in reply to roger '40 9n, 04-21-2004 16:30:34  
You are correct. The right hand inspection cover on the cast aluminum run of N's was smooth because the original dipstick location was on the transmission cover front left corner. When they went with the cast iron base and steel dash plate, the inspection cover and other parts went to steel and cast iron...and the dipstick was relocated to the more common position on the cover. You should also have a cast aluminum lift quadrant as well as the cast aluminum dash.

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Jeb2N

04-21-2004 16:01:35




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 Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 15:46:38  
All N-series tractors' serial numbers begin with 9N or 8N...even the 2N's began with 9NXXXXX . While there were a few very very rare narrow tread model 9N tractors, you would have to check several things to verify that. The smooth hub 9N's were early models so you have only verified that it is an early 9N...first couple of years that is. The serial number is located on a flat 2" or so long raised section of the engine block on the left hand side and is stamped extremely lightly. Get us that number and some possible pictures of the rear axle housings and we can get you some more info.

Jeb

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Adam

04-21-2004 16:08:00




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 Re: Re: Ford 9N in reply to Jeb2N, 04-21-2004 16:01:35  
Jeb; thanks for your reply,The serial # appears to be 9NI2792A I think thats what is stamped on the block as you are right it is stamped very lightly Thanks Adam



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souNdguy

04-21-2004 16:20:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 16:08:00  
I'll bet that 'A' is the sleave designator.. and not really an a.. and the "I" as we know is a "1"

Making that 12792.. early 1940.. say.. late january? based on production numbers..?

Got any pics of the fender mounts? and the hood / grill? / tranny top cover?

Soundguy



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Adam

04-21-2004 17:00:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 9N in reply to souNdguy, 04-21-2004 16:20:05  
I just went and measured the width of the rear axle it is 3ft 7 inch wide is that the standard width of most 9N's or could this tractor be in fact a narrow width 9N Thanks



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Jeb2N

04-21-2004 18:01:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 9N in reply to Adam, 04-21-2004 17:00:39  
Where is that measurement taken from? Try to measure from outside of the brake drums to outside of brake drum....or, inside of the center disc where it bolts to the hub to same point on opposite side. If it's as you say, then yes, that sounds like it may be a narrow tread. I can't find the webpage that had a picture of one for reference, but i'll keep looking.

Jeb



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