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2N drown in lake

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RussMO

05-06-2004 15:19:31




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Well what can happen, will happen to me and my 2N.
Got the situation resolved two days ago relative to the no start problem. (bad coil)
Was cutting grass (boy it was running good) and decided to get as close as possible around the lake with finishing mower. Stopped to move something, and turned off 2N and got off tractor. I must have put it in neutral to get off and looked back to see it roll completely under the lake.
Ran and got the 4Runner and chain. Had to pull for about ten minutes with unit under water before I got it out. Pulled it up to the barn and did the following:
-drained and replace oil and filter
-drained and replace transmission/rearend oil (drained all three drains)
-cleaned air filter
-drained water out air cleaner jar
-removed distributor and completely cleaned/dried
-removed exhaust pipe to remove any water
-removed carb. air intake and dried
-drained carb
-dried plugs
-blew air around wiring
THERE WAS A LOT OF WATER IN THE REAREND AND APPROX. A QUART IN THE ENGINE OIL.
It would not start so I checked voitage on top of coil and nothing. I just replaced the ballast resister two days ago along with the coil, but the under water adventure maybe burned it or the ignition switch?
Any additional suggestions? Thank you

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Paul in MN

05-07-2004 09:27:04




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
I worked on an 8n last summer that had a similar fate, with the creek water coming over the steering wheel. In servicing that very nice 8n, I found the following that you may find helpful.
1. The sherman trans does not have a drain that you can get to without splitting, but it is fed oil from the main tranny. Thus it will hold water even after you have drained the 3 plugs. The only way to get it out is by the dillution method. Drain and replace the tranny oil as you have done, but do it again in a few months, and I found it necessary to do it a 3rd time this spring.
2. The steering gear box on the 8n has no drain plug. Water will go down the steering wheel shaft into the gear box. Some method of sucking it out with a small tube through the fill plug may be necessary. I loosened the side cover plate and let the oil/water out, then refilled it w/ oil. I think the 2n steering box drains into the tranny, so this may not be an issue for you.
3. Generator or alternator? I found the copper wiring leads to the alternator to be badly corroded (green) at the crimp on end terminal. Cut it back about 1/2 inch and put on a new crimp. Battery cables also corroded very quickly, needing replacement. If you have a generator, you probably have a regulator that has some water in it. Take cover off and dry it out with daughter's (not the wife's) hair drier.
4. Where the lower section of the hood (ribs) is supported on the backside with a reinforcement, dirt has usually accumulated and usually stays dry, thus seldom giving a problem with rusting through. When submerged, this becomes wet mud and will accelerate the rust through quickly, so use a air gun and blow it out dry (especially difficult alongside the lower edge of the gas tank sides). 5. We found a live snake coiled up under the hood.
6. The points may become sticky, not pivoting correctly on the brass post, thus sticking partially open....thus no spark. You may as well just replace them and WD40 the back half of the distributor.
7. The headlights (metal can) had filled with enough water behind the sealed bulbs that when the lights were turned on, the bulbs immediately failed. They are supposed to have a drain hole, but it may be plugged.
8. The brake shoes rusted just enough to the back plates that they would not return to the up or free position.
9. The clutch disc may absorb just enough water to rust tight to the flywheel and pressure plate. If it hasn't become tight yet, depress the clutch pedal and clamp it down for a few days until it has a chance to dry out. I don't think there is a drain hole in the bottom of the bellhousing. It may be time to drill about a 5/16" hole at the lowest point of the bellhousing.

The tractor that I worked on had been in the water for about 20 hours. The owner had been working some lower garden ground, and had gotten stuck in a muddy spot when one hell of a thunderstorm came up. He abandoned ship, running for the barn. The creek came up about 5 feet completely drowning the tractor. I've got it running well for him now.

Best of luck in getting it back to good health.

Paul Hetchler

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don't tell anyone

05-07-2004 07:04:47




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
Be careful and not tell anyone you got in the lake. Around here if a motorized vehicle or piece of equipment gets into a body of water your geta $1200. fine in the mail for water polution.



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RussMO

05-07-2004 04:51:44




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
Thanks everyone. I will let you know how things workout..... ...



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souNdguy

05-06-2004 22:03:22




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
One other thing.. you probably already done this.. but with those spark plugs out.. spin the engine over to get ANY water out of the cylinders..

Also.. carb is probably soaked.. might spray it down good.

Like the others said.. follow the volts.

Soundguy



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Eric ATL

05-06-2004 21:33:53




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
As bad as your luck has been, the blessing is that it was your tractor and not you. The tractor you can fix.



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John Norquist

05-06-2004 16:10:01




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
I was plowing snow this last winter with a six foot blade. I was in second gear, wide open, just slipping and sliding on the driveway. As soon as I hit the main road where the city plows had cleared, the ol, 8N's tires hooked up on the cleared road and shot me across the road towards a 6 foot ditch. I stopped just in time! That was close.



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Rob

05-06-2004 16:01:45




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
Trace it back to see where you have juice. I'd look at the starter switch. Look at everything. No telling what has water in it. Starter relay? Gas tank?
Grease everything to chase the water out.
When a generator or starter gets water in the windings, so much as a single drop, they can burn out if power is applied. In about one/half second. The way to go if the field windings have been exposed to water is to strip the unit down and put the case with windings in the oven at a 212 degrees+ for an hour or so until the windings have gotten hot enough, through and through, to boil and dry out the windings. One drop of water stuck in the windings can and will create a little short and burns that thing up. Setting the windings out in the sun won't dry them.

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JohnMd

05-06-2004 15:57:17




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
Only thing you can do is start at the battery and work your way out checking for voltage until you find the problem. Man you have some bad luck. I hope it changes.



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05-06-2004 15:56:35




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
Rolled one over on me in 3 feet of water, last year. Was able to extricate myself. Experience comes with age isn't the teacher that it is cranked up to be. In my case it was dumb luck. I think that I learned something from that. At least I hope so.

oslo in nc



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Keep fishing

05-06-2004 15:45:33




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 Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:19:31  
Well, I'd throw it back and keep fishing for one that runs.



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RussMO

05-06-2004 15:49:13




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 Re: Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to Keep fishing, 05-06-2004 15:45:33  
This whole think hasn't been that funny..... ...



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You're not the 1st! Rob

05-06-2004 16:05:27




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 Re: Re: Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to RussMO , 05-06-2004 15:49:13  
You're not even close to the first guy to dunk his N. Have you checked the archives?



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javelina al

05-06-2004 18:22:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to You're not the 1st! Rob, 05-06-2004 16:05:27  
Let us not forget that the "WD" in WD40 stands for water displacemt. you may have to squirt some around to get rid of water you can't see. Good luck.



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Joe(NYC)

05-06-2004 18:38:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to javelina al, 05-06-2004 18:22:16  
Try using CRC 626 spray. This spray is used to improve electrical qualities. Cleans and improves anything electrical in nature. It is best with actual electrical contacts(points, relays, starter switch) and connections. Displaces water and dirt so it can be sprayed on points, ignition wires, distributor, coil etc.



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H Otis.

05-07-2004 10:23:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2N drown in lake in reply to Joe(NYC), 05-06-2004 18:38:01  
NEW YORK CITY !!!!!



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