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Yet Another Noob with a HELP Question

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PNR123

05-08-2004 19:12:42




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Not only do I feel like I only take away from this site without adding anything but I also feel like a "tool" as I've encountered a glitch with my '48 8N , it has always operated flawlessly until today. It hasn't turned a wheel for about a month or so and the last real use was plowing deep (1' - 3')snow and now the clutch seems to be stuck!! I press the pedal all the way down and the tranny just keeps on a turnin' making it impossible to get her to move without JAMMING it into gear which I'm darn sure is not a good thing. Can anyone out there in cyber tractor land PLEASE offer any suggestions?
Thank you very much..... yet again

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David

05-10-2004 16:46:33




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 Re: Yet Another Noob with a HELP Question in reply to PNR123, 05-08-2004 19:12:42  
Jamming it into gear is definitely a bad idea, just ask my father. A couple of years ago his Jubilee was doing the same thing. One thing lead to another and he jammed it into gear one last time. We had it apart to redo the engine (separate story) and were preparing to send the transmission for repair (out of my league). When I drained the transmission out came some "gear teeth". To make a long story short, the repair bill was $800 (broken countershaft and a bunch of other stuff).

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souNdguy

05-08-2004 20:48:22




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 Re: Yet Another Noob with a HELP Question in reply to PNR123, 05-08-2004 19:12:42  
A couple ideas.

While it is possible that your clutch needs adjustment, and yer simply not getting the clutch disengaged enough.. that is usually a gradual thing.. not all at once after sitting.

More likely, the clutch plate is frozen to the flywheel.... or it could even be stuck due to a leaky rear main seal or tranny input seal, greasing up the clutch. Try blocking the clutch down overnight and see if it releases any better inthe morning. The oily ones usually do. If it is stuck from surface rust instead.. tie the clutch down, and then go out driving and do some figure 8's and stomp on the brakes intermittantly, on either side.. and both at once... should brake the clutch free.

Blocking the clutch down during storage will prevent it from rusting up.

Also people have reported a semi-longterm fix with the oily clutch by 1) draining some rear end fluid out until the level was even with the lower bolt hole on the round inspection cover, and 2) removing the starter, and trying to spray-clean the flywheel with a can of carb or brake cleaner with a flexi straw.. I can't verify that that work.. bt have 'heard' that it helps.

Soundguy

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Maybe a stupid question..

05-09-2004 08:33:33




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 Re: Re: Yet Another Noob with a HELP Question in reply to souNdguy, 05-08-2004 20:48:22  
I've never blocked any of my clutches down and, knock wood, have never had a problem. I know I've just been lucky, and will probably start blocking, after reading so much "stuck clutch" on this site. Now, the stupid question: Wouldn't the clutch being blocked all winter weaken the pressure plate springs? Just wondering.



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no . . . Dell (WA)

05-09-2004 10:59:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Yet Another Noob with a HELP Question in reply to Maybe a stupid question.., 05-09-2004 08:33:33  
as a general rule, as long as you don't exceed the "elastisity" (thats a technical term) of the metal, you don't fatigue the spring. Think about valve springs, automotive front suspension coil springs. Yer NOT gonna fatigue yer clutch pressure springs by blocking the clutch pedal down..... .....Dell



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JohnMd

05-09-2004 10:40:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Yet Another Noob with a HELP Question in reply to Maybe a stupid question.., 05-09-2004 08:33:33  
I have a 49 8N. The clutch stuck about 25 years ago. I wrapped a piece of #6 copper wire around the running board such that it could be slid over the cluch pedal and hold it down. After about two days I started up the tractor and the clutch was free. I have been tieing it down like this for the last 25 years and have no problems. I agree it does not sound right and should weaking the springs but it is better then a stuck cluch.

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PNR123

05-10-2004 20:01:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Yet Another Noob with a HELP Quest in reply to JohnMd, 05-09-2004 10:40:51  
Thanks to all , I have cut a length of 3/4" Sq tubing and wedged it under the steering wheel to hold the clutch pedal down , hopefully she'll let go soon. I hope to one day be able to contribute something back so thanks again



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