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nut

05-17-2004 09:32:23

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I checked out a tractor the other day. When I pulled the dipstick out of the rear end the lube was foamy and milky looking. Looked to me like maybe water had goten in there but the guy selling it said it was like that when he put it in. He changed it with in the last two years and said he got the fluid from the ford/new holland dealer. Have you ever seen lube like that?

PS- The tractor drove and shifted great. The lift & PTO worked good too. How would water even get into the rear end?

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Ryan

05-17-2004 13:36:35

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Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to nut, 05-17-2004 09:32:23

We once bought some hydraulic oil (cheap)that was kind of milky that has water in it. I don't know wether it got in there when the oil was stacked out back or came that way.

Ryan

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Danny in CO

05-17-2004 09:46:06

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Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to nut, 05-17-2004 09:32:23

Nut,

If it is milky, there's water in there! If the shifter boot is bad, water can get into the rear end that way.

Danny

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Bruce (VA)

05-17-2004 09:44:15

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Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to nut, 05-17-2004 09:32:23

If it's milky, it's got water in it. Assuming this is an N tractor, the tranmission, pump & rear end all share a common sump. Most of the water gets in the sump from a loose shifter boot. If you buy the tractor, get 5 gallons of 90w mineral oil or Ford spec 134D fluid & replace it, along with a new shifter boot. Remove the right inspection plate and add fluid until it drips out of the lower bolt hole, about 4 3/4 gallons; mark the dip stick accordingly, as this is enough fluid. Any more & it will likely leak past the wheel seals & on to the brakes.

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nut

05-17-2004 10:06:50

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Re: Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to Bruce (VA), 05-17-2004 09:44:15

Thank you for your quick responses. I thought that it might be water. I really think I'm going to buy it. It is an early 8N maybe a 47 or 48. I can't tell exaclty because there is no serial number on it, I think it has a replaced block.

Any tips on replacing the rear fluid, or just open the petcock drain and replace trough the inspection plate?

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roger '40 9n

05-17-2004 10:42:56

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Re: Re: Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to nut, 05-17-2004 10:06:50

"Any tips on replacing the rear fluid, or just open the petcock drain and replace trough the inspection plate? "

Nope.

There are three drain plugs.
Open the little pipe plug under the diffy first. Have a five gallon bucket under it. Then open and drain the other two (big) plugs. (under the hydraulic pump and under the transmission) let them drip for a while.

The "fill-em-up" is that big plug next to your
gearshift.

Fill it with either 90wt GL1 or M2C134D. Specs call for five gallons. Most people put about 4 anna half in there to keep the fluid off the brakes. You might have half gallon of sludge in there anyway. :-)

Roger in Michigan.

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Bruce (VA)

05-17-2004 10:35:25

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Re: Re: Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to nut, 05-17-2004 10:06:50

It's got 3 drain plugs. Get a pan big enough to hold 5 gallons (a grout bucket won't fit) Start with the rear pipe plug; most of the 5 gallons will come out. Then, move the pan and take out the drain plug under the pump; lastly, move the pan and remove the trans drain plug. Means you are going to buy the tractor....remove both inspection plates and reach in with your hand and start removing the sludge in the pump base. When you're done, pour some kerosine or diesel fuel in the inspection plate holes & flush it out real good. Recycle the kerosine a few times like this. And, finally, add the new fluid through the cap behind the gear shift.

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Rob

05-17-2004 10:14:09

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Re: Re: Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to nut, 05-17-2004 10:06:50

Hey nut. You gotta wonder about what that fellah tells you bout anything. He most certainly did not pour that milky stuff in there he just got from Ford.
Maybe one chance in 10-hundred million he really did.

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Ken N Tx

05-17-2004 12:47:07

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Re: Re: Re: Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to Rob, 05-17-2004 10:14:09

It could happen!! I heard that a dealer charged a Blonde $25 to change he turn signal fluid..LOL

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souNdguy

05-17-2004 11:31:27

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Re: Re: Re: Re: rear end fluid color? in reply to Rob, 05-17-2004 10:14:09

I agree with Rob.. the guy most certaintly didn't pour milky frothy oil out of a new NH container in there.

That means he's either a liar.. or an idiot... neither are particularly a good sign for tractor.. or for its maintenance... However given the choice of the two.. I would rather buy from the idiot...

Hopefully the fellow you are buying from is merely an idiot.. and not a shyster/liar.

Good luck on the tractor.

Soundguy

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