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Odie

07-09-2004 23:50:29




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Need some advice,

I am thinking of buying a finish mower to pull behind my 8N, but I'm not sure its the way I want to go. I have about 4 acres and have mowed it for 10 years with a brush hog. No rocks, stumps, etc, so I know it would be ok for the finish mower. The wife and I have decided we would like the groomed look over all the propery rather than the "rough finish" cut of a brush hog. I do keep the blades relatively sharp though.

Anyway, my questions:

I do have several trees to go around, and one of the problems I have with the hog is it seems I am either dragging the front end or leaving a rut with the wheel in the back when going around sharp corners. I use limiter chains on the top of the three point, but no matter how much I fiddle with it, I can never seem to get it where it won't drag somewhere. I realize this is probably due to the fact that its a BRUSH HOG, not a lawn mower, but will I have the same kind of trouble with a finish mower? I see that a FM sits on the ground and all the wheels swivel, but still, will it turn sharp with no "rutting"?

I have gone back quite a ways in the forums and it seems most people tend to mow in 2nd gear. Is that the norm? I know when I am pulling a BH, 3rd gear seems a little slow, but 4th is WAY too high, so 3rd it is. I am not looking to set any land speed records, but I'm not sure I want to possibly double my mowing time.

I guess I have been spoiled since I have been doing some volunteer mowing for an outfit and they have a grasshopper. What a machine! Fast and agile.... and expensive! If a finish mower behind the 8N would look as good, I wouldn't mind a little extra time.... and a whole lot less money!

What do you think?

Thanks
Odie

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Odie

07-10-2004 23:59:11




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
Everyone,

Thanks for the info. I was leaning toward a finish mower, rather the a "newer" type mower. I have kept my eye open for a used one around here (Tulsa, Ok. area) but they seem to be slim. Even a new one will be considerably cheaper than the other grass cutters.

Hadn't considered the "horse" thing though. Something tells me you can't just put those away for the winter when the grass quits growing.....

Looks like I may get to spend more time on the old Ford. There's just something about being out there and getting work done with the almost 60 year old machine!

Thanks again.

Odie

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souNdguy

07-10-2004 20:56:30




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
One suggestion.

Grease that tail wheel so that it pivots freely.. it shouldn't rut up your yard.. it should spin and track the mower.

Also.. weld a couple bolts a the front of your hog.. slide some deck wheels on it.. lowes/HD has them for about 3 bucks.. slap a lock-nut on it. The wheels will set a minimum cut depth.. and should keep the skid plates from rutting the yard as much.

If you want the superior groomed luck.. you are on the right course with a finish mower.

Soundguy

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Doug MO

07-10-2004 09:38:37




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
I use a 60" Caroni brand finish mower and I'm real happy with the results. Whatever brand you choose, make sure the mower has grease fittings on the wheel shafts and on the bearings on the mowing deck, and keep them greased. Buy a mower that has four wheels for a nice smooth cut - the Caroni brand has wheels that are about 5" wide which distributes the weight of the mower better than narrower wheels. I always mow in 2nd gear, 3rd seems a little too fast but the mower does keep up if the grass isn't too tall. My Caroni is 9 years old and all I've had to do is grease it before every use and I've changed the blades once. Doug.

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Bill C.

07-10-2004 12:39:48




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 Re: Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Doug MO, 07-10-2004 09:38:37  
I use a 5' Caroni and find that it does an excellent job. They are available from Agri Supply at 800-345-0169, along with any parts if needed.

Bill C.



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BillM (OH)

07-10-2004 08:59:41




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
I have both -- 6 ft. hog and a 5 ft. rear discharge Italian made finish mower -- does a nice job -- BUT, if grass is growing well, you'll have to mow about every week, or it'll get away from you and you'll have to use the hog. I do not mow in 3rd with the finish mower -- ground too rough for my old bod -- 2nd for normal grass, 1st if it gets really tough!



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Scott(Ks.)

07-10-2004 06:35:33




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
I use a 6' King Kutter finish mower. It has a really good floating hitch and four corner caster wheels that nearly completely eliminates any dragging or digging or marking. I do mow in 2nd gear and that gives me more control around objects. I usually hold over so that my two left side tractor wheels are running on cut grass. That just leaves two wheels running on uncut grass. It does a nice job, but won't mow as heavy a grass as a brush hog. If I were to buy a new finish mower I think I would look into a rear discharge.

The difference in time between 2nd and 3rd gears on four acres won't make you late for supper.LOL

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SteveB

07-10-2004 06:25:50




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
I've been mowing 9 acres with a 6 foot KK finish mower for 5 years now. I also have a 5 foot KK brush hog, and I agree with you that the brush hog is great for knocking down the big stuff, but it's rather cumbersome for routine mowing.

My finish mower doesn't create ruts, and it turns just fine. I almost always finish mow in 3rd gear. Only drop down for especially tall grass.

Each year I let me fields grow during the spring until most of the rain is done. Then I brush hog to knock it down. The rest of the summer I finish mow. Takes the pressure off of keeping up during the start of the spring.

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Dave H (NY)

07-10-2004 04:36:10




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
Two choices come to mind, first the finish mowers with four wheels leave less of a footprint because the wieght is distributed through four contact points and they are more agile then a bush hog. Second you can also consider a flail mower with the correct blades they do a nice finish cut and they stay very close to the rear of the tractor so movement around trees and other obsticles is not a problem.

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Dave

07-10-2004 04:35:28




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
I bought a Caroni several years ago. It runs on 4 caster wheels so no gouging. TSC was selling them then, but have switched to King Kutter. I have found that 3rd gear is OK if your bottom can take it. The ride starts getting a little rough. The only problem I have had with the Caroni is when my son decided to mow a trail in the woods. Two new blades later..... ..



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2ntom

07-10-2004 06:20:45




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 Re: Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Dave, 07-10-2004 04:35:28  
Hi, I'm considering a Bush Hog brand finish mower. A RDTH60. 5ft. rear discharge. Around $1600. Check them out!!



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Rango

07-10-2004 00:02:50




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 Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Odie, 07-09-2004 23:50:29  
Hmmm, I have about 20 acres, seems like 10 horses are keeping everything mowed down pretty well and I dont really care what gear they "mow" in. Of course the presents they leave me everywhere are a different problem, ha!



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Mow and fertilize ...

07-10-2004 08:49:15




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 Re: Re: Finish Mower question in reply to Rango, 07-10-2004 00:02:50  
.. at the same time -- that's something a mower or bush hog can't do!

Jon in Mass



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