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painting with rattle can and brush

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randy

07-16-2004 13:01:30




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I would like any advise/tips regarding how to get the best results using rattle cans and brush to paint a 53 NAA. Any hints on surface prep, ie degreasers? lite sanding?. Tractor is in good shape, just surface rust, no pitting or body damage. Most of the paint appears orginial. Ive seen some advise about painting with a brush to get a good "quanity" of paint on the tractor and applying a "finish" coat with the spray cans to fill in the brush marks while still tacky. I understand a spray gun or body shop would provide a much better finish, but not in the budget right now and I dont want the rust to get past the surface rust stage. Thanks in advance for you help.

Randy

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Barry

07-18-2004 10:32:51




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
Might I suggest you get one of the cheap attachments for the spray cans. It is a plastic piece that has a hand trigger and the can mounts into it. Cheap and works great. It allows better control of spray pattern, keeps your hands clean, relieves pressure on you finger holding spray button down, and makes can easier to hold.



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Barry

07-18-2004 10:43:22




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 Re: Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to Barry, 07-18-2004 10:32:51  
Try this site for picture of spray can attachment. Also available at Lowe's and other home improvemnet stores.
http://www.carnaubawax.com/search.jsp?searchtext=20221&search.x=18&search.y=5



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Steve

07-17-2004 13:15:07




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
I would recommend a product called "Prep-Sol". It is a cleaner that removes most of the contamination wax, grease, etc. on the painting surface. It is used by the bodyshop for surface prep. Clean the loose scale and rust then do the final cleaning with the solvent. It is very reasonable and available at the auto body paint supply. I also like to scuff the surface with red scotch-brite before painting. I had very good results with the rattle cans. Good Luck!

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( Pic ) Ken N Tx

07-17-2004 05:34:24




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
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Worked great for me..Candy Apple Red Rustolium.



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Jerry L /az

07-16-2004 19:09:34




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
What I did on my 52 8-n after sanding whipe it clean and spray you'r primer let dry and rub with steel wool not the expensive stuff get it at the groc. store blow off with air and prime again this time rub down with a scott pad also from the store then after about three light coats of primer spray on you'r gray and repeat the above procedure. take your time and it should be o.k. ..... ...Jer

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Gary TX

07-16-2004 18:29:43




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
I've been doing pretty much the same thing. I have finished the red and part of the lt grey. It probably isn't enough but I have went over each area with a wire brush on my drill and removed the surface rust. I've then cleaned the area and sprayed it with primer followed by Ford Red from tractor supply. It worked fine, looks great and so far seems to be holding up. I'm doing the hood next and plan to sand it pretty smooth.. I found a sanding block at tractor supply that is working great for this. Hope that helps a little, good luck
gary

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randy

07-16-2004 13:47:48




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
Thanks for the advice, please keep it comming. This is good group of guys, not like some of the auto discussion boards, where the suggestion of something less than a $3,000 paint job will get you in big trouble. Please dont get me wrong, I'm not saying you guys with "SHOW" tractors are as nuts as auto collectors, and I really enjoy seeing these fine show tractors, but I'm just trying to preserve a 51 year old WORK tractor.

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MikeT

07-16-2004 13:30:58




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
Well, if you must brush -

First get a high quality brush like a Purdy natural bristle brush (for oil based paints). You can get them most anywhere (Home Depot, for one). Don't use an el-cheapo brush! Get at least a 2" wide or 2-1/2" wide brush. Clean it good with paint thinner and test it to get rid of loose bristles, if any.

Next get a can of Penetrol ("quality paint conditioner". This will help level the paint out.

Mix the reccommended amount of the Penetrol into the paint using a mixer on an electric drill. Add in a small amount of quality paint thinner. Maybe like 1/2 cup per quart of paint.

Find a test piece of metal to practice on. Apply a good even coat and let it dry overnight in a dust free area. Seal up the can of paint when done.

If you like the results on the test piece. then proceed to the tractor metal.

First though, sand it thoroughly with a block sander and then by hand. Use 2 or 3 grits and quit with 600 grit wet/dry paper.

If you have rust spots, then you can touch those up with a dab of paint before final painting. After those are dry, resand around them using a block sander.

When ready for final painting, lightly soak a rag in lacquer thinner and wipe it all down. The rag just needs to be damp is all.

Before painting, lightly wet the surface with a rag damp with paint thinner.

Paint, using straight even strokes.

One coat should hold it for a few years.

If you had it all sanded and ready and had the paint, a paint shop probably would blow on the paint for little charge. I would investigate that avenue before using a brush.

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Dave TX

07-16-2004 13:27:12




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
I'm currently restoring a 1950 8N. I've only been using spray can paint. First I treat the metal with a rust remover. After I've removed as much rust as possible I spray the part with Phosphoric Acid to convert whatever rust is left to so-called "black rust" which you can safely paint over. If the rust is really bad I use an electrolysis treatment. You can get the details of this at the following website:>Link

Click>Link on Restoration Tips

Good luck!

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Evil Steve

07-16-2004 13:19:43




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 Re: painting with rattle can and brush in reply to randy, 07-16-2004 13:01:30  
Randy-

Went thru this a couple of years ago. Check Archives by typing "evil steve chigger paint" for the details of how I did mine. Chigger is my '50-B



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