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Asbestos in RH running board

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Russ in SoCal

07-19-2004 23:26:14




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Jeb posted earlier today about sandblasting or pressure washing. On my tractor, the heat shield under the running board was badly rusted, exposing the asbestos. Thanks to a post a month or so ago, I was looking for it. Before I got happy with it, I took the part off, put it upside down on the bench and used about a third of one of the $15 JB Weld kits. Since I had no way to safely remove it, nor dispose of it, encapsulating it seemed like the best option. There's been too many people died and lawyers got rich over that stuff.
Russ

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JerryU

07-20-2004 06:34:15




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 Re: Asbestos in RH running board in reply to Russ in SoCal, 07-19-2004 23:26:14  
I have a background in asbestos as I work for a school district and it is highly regulated. As Mr. Sherman says, it is also highly overracted to.

Asbestos only poses a problem when airborne and breathed in. In that state, it can be deadly. It most commonly was a problem in insulation workers and particularly in the marine industry.

That being said, it is most dangerous when it is friable--that is when you can crush it under finger pressure into a fine powder and it can become airborne.

There are a great number of protocols for dealing with asbestos. First if it is siding or floor tile or the like, deal with it whole. Just don't grind it to make dust.

If you have fiber, fluff, or powder insulation, wet it. When the fibers are wet, they can't go airborne. Bag it in plastic along with anything that it may be on. Don't use a shop vac to vacuum dry asbestos, it is so fine it will go right through the filter and shoot through the air.

If you work on any amount you should minimally have a respirator suitable for asbestos. Paper masks don't do a thing, again asbestos is so fine it shoots right through them.

This is not meant to be recommendations or directions of how to do anything, just an opinion (disclaimer here for lawyers). I assume no responsiblity for any methodology that may be implied by the above, but hope it gives a little sense about this stuff. By the way, the ceramic fiber replacement insulation, which is not regulated, works well because it looks a lot like asbestos. What do you figure that will happen with that stuff in 10 or 20 years.

JU

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9NJoe

07-20-2004 05:00:22




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 Re: Asbestos in RH running board in reply to Russ in SoCal, 07-19-2004 23:26:14  
Yeah, what Zane said.... My house is shingled in asbestos and I have never had a problem. Yes, I had to sign all sorts of acknowlegements when I bought the place (lawyers) but to be frank it is great on the side of the house, Like having your house sheathed in rock, never paint it, always looks great. I just use common sense when working with it. Keep it damp and where a dust mask. No Problems...

Joe

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ZANE

07-20-2004 04:29:18




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 Re: Asbestos in RH running board in reply to Russ in SoCal, 07-19-2004 23:26:14  
Asbestos is the most maligned material that the media has ever decided to attacl. To this day I really don't know the reasoning behind this charade.

There is absolutely no good substitute for asbestos when it comes to insulation.

True it can and does cause cancer in people who have been over exposed to the asbestos fibres. So does the silicone in sand and plain old dirt but I don't see a media blitz on getting rid of soil and beaches! What about coal dust? Do you see industry stoping using coal? Do you know where that electricity coming out of your wall comes from?

Why has the media and the government not been able or had the want to to rid us of the bad health problems caused by tobacco????? Probably because most of them smoke themselves and don't own interest in an asbestos mine.

I don't think for a minute that light exposure to asbestos fibres is dangerous. I think it is a conspiresy by the trial lawers in the US to rob anybody in the interest of inflating their own pocket books.

In my book asbestos is great and not that dangerous when handled properly and safely.

The main reason that asbestos has been bad for some people in the past was simply because of their ignorence of the right way to handle it safely. Same thing goes for coal and breathing dust etc. Just try to be enlightened.

One other thing. Be extra cautious when mowing the grass because it has been found to be extremely toxic to some people!:O)

Zane

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cargocult

07-20-2004 11:31:17




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 Re: Re: Asbestos in RH running board in reply to ZANE, 07-20-2004 04:29:18  
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Right on!! I personally observed asbestos lagging on pipes on the passages of the USS Kitty Hawk, one was right where the sailors would grab it to ascend the ladder! Needless to say there was powder always around that area! No problems yet! Glad I don't work in the Railroad Scrap Yard! See photo! Way back in time, like the 60's. Now, the Government snoops would have a s** fit! Notice the asbestos falling down without containmnent procedures. Hey, we all gotta die sometimes! Personally I'd like to be "Lost At Sea"..save on funeral expenses, hehehe. ;-) {Pic is from the saddest book in my collection..The Twilight of Steam Locomotives, by Ron Ziel}

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Ron/PA

07-20-2004 09:10:15




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 Re: Re: Asbestos in RH running board in reply to ZANE, 07-20-2004 04:29:18  
Zane, there is one big distinction between Coal dust, tobacco and asbestos. Asbestos generates no tax revenue and is not large enough to generate large profits! Black lung has become a rite of passage in the mine fields of PA. Much like social security. The black lung fund is an automatic given to the widows of miners. Tobacco generates so much revenue above and beyond the taxes, that government can afford to wound it's golden goose, but not quite kill it. Asbestos has neither so it's become the great evil. It's much like milk causing cancer, if you pump 1 gallon of milk into a 1 lb rat daily it will die. hmmmmm . Breath enough asbestos and you'll die, course like you said, grass will do it too. ie: hay dust can cause emphyzema!
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Ron

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jhaa_lives

07-20-2004 04:07:06




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 Re: Asbestos in RH running board in reply to Russ in SoCal, 07-19-2004 23:26:14  
I agree about too many lawyers getting rich. However, more people die from accidentally swallowing toothpicks every year than die from asbestos.



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