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bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt

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CowBoy

08-17-2004 04:20:46




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I recently bought an old 9n from my father in-law. I have 2 questions and would appreciate any help.

1) What size bush hog is best to use without over taxing the tractor? My intended use is cutting roadsides and 3.5 acres of pasture.

2) My tractor has a dead battery and really dirty wiring. In looking around for a battery and wiring I'm really tempted to convert on over to 12 volt. I read the article here and checked out the kit. Any thoughts on this? This is not a restoration tractor but will be used for working around our hobby farm.

Thanks!

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Bill OH

08-17-2004 12:28:39




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
I run a 5 foot King Kutter on my '41 9N. I mow about 6 acres of pasture. More than enough power for that size. Don't forget the OCR!

Stick with the 6V system. I havn't had a lick of trouble with mine in the 12 yrs. I've had it. All the parts are readily available, including batteries.



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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

08-17-2004 07:25:12




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
I"ll chime in with everyone else.

I"d recommend going with a 5" brush hog. I use a 4" on my 8N ("cause that"s what came with it), but I think that I"d rather have at least a 5"er.

I"ve got a 12V conversion on my 8N (again, "cause that "s what it came with), but, assuming that your generator works, you can repair and maintain your 6V system for less than upgrading (then maintaining) to a 12V system...

Steve

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Bruce (VA)

08-17-2004 06:27:45




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
Like the others have said..... you are not gaining a thing by converting to 12v. Buy a new battery, big fat 1 or 2 guage battery cables, new wiring harness & a tune-up kit with copper-core wires. Total cost, about $100. Then, clean every electrical connection with a wire brush/sandpaper. It took me 3 hours to rewire my 8N sidemount last week, so figure a good afternoon of work, and your tractor should be running fine with a brand new electrical system. If it does not show a charge or is still hard to start, get back on the board, because you have other problems.

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Rob

08-17-2004 06:38:50




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 Don't forget to polarize. in reply to Bruce (VA), 08-17-2004 06:27:45  



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Bkeepr

08-17-2004 06:09:00




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
1) I run a 5' hog, and I've got lots of hills and occasionally let saplings grow too big, but still have adequate power for that size.

2) I personally think 12 volt conversion is a waste of time and money. A well-maintained 6 volt system will start anytime, anywhere. Last week, for the first time in years, my 8N wouldn't start. First thing I did was check for spark, and as always was amazed at the size and strength of my 6 volt spark...far better than any of my "modern" and "high tech" 12 volt cars or other equipment. (Reason the 8N wouldn't start, BTW, was I had stupidly left the gas valve open for a week, parked on a hill, and apparently the carb float stuck open so everything was literally full of liquid gasoline.) I know there's lots of guys that'll swear by their 12 volt conversions, but there's also lots who sold their tractors in frustration after failing to do the job right, too.

Anyway, good luck!

Tom A

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souNdguy

08-17-2004 06:05:26




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
A 5' hog works decent behind my N. You might look for a light duty one.. like KK or howse, as they are also much lighter, and easier for your machine to tote around.. less spendy too.. as a 5' light duty hog is in the 500$ range.

Do yourself a favor and get an over running coupler as well. It keeps the hog from driving the tractor via the drive train.cost is about 50-80 depending on brand/make. Depending on what pto stub your tractor has, will determine what orc you get. If you have the modern 1 3/8 pto.. you just need a regular 1 3/8 to 1 3/8 orc.. if you have the old 1 1/8 pto.. you can do one of three things. Buy a new shaft that comes with bearings and seals, already assembled. unbolt 4 bolts.. slid e old one out.. slide new one in. Or get a 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 orc.. they are available.. but sometimes you have to grind/chamfer the edge down a hair to get it to fit.cost is about 100$ There is also a 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 stub extender that pins on to your old stub, making it look like the new stub.. then you can use the regular orc.cost is about 16$ AVOID the small sheet metal 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 bushing that simply increases the pto spline diameter, and does not extend it... it chews up under load. cost is 4$

Soundguy

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don t.-9n180179

08-17-2004 05:12:06




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
1 - I run a 5' hog w/my 2N, and it aint at the Ford recommended 90 PSI compression (i.e. tired engine). If the grass is to tall/thick, I take smaller bites. 2 - Its your $, but if all you need is a re-wire, about $15 and 2 hours of your time will fix er up. I have no problems starting in N. Illinois winters w/6v. HTH....don t. ...



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CowBoy

08-17-2004 17:46:50




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to don t.-9n180179, 08-17-2004 05:12:06  
Don, where bouts in Illinois are you? I live just north of Tuscola, in east central IL.



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don t.-9n180179

08-18-2004 04:53:51




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 17:46:50  
Harvard, Il.



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Rob

08-17-2004 04:44:30




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to CowBoy, 08-17-2004 04:20:46  
Quality of the grass matters. 'Round here 7 acres of pastures will feed a cow/calf May1 to Nov1. In Utah it might take 50 acres of grass to do that, don't really know. I do know it takes more hp to mow an acre of Kansas pasture than it takes to mow an acre of Utah pasture. 9N/5' hog is a good match 'round here. Matches the wheel spacing too.
My 6v works fine, but my wiring is squared away and I put it together clean, bright and tight. If I ever want to put an 8-track on the N I guess I'll need to convert to 12v.

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tomtoney

08-17-2004 06:21:42




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to Rob, 08-17-2004 04:44:30  
I have a couple of 8 track players that go in cars. Maybe I should put one on my 8 N. Have stero 8 track in shop with about 100 tapes. Play them when I work in the shop. Would hate to cut hole in dash for the player.



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Rob

08-17-2004 13:04:07




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to tomtoney, 08-17-2004 06:21:42  
Maybe a guy can squeeze it in between the battery and tank. Load it through the battery cover.



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steveormary

08-17-2004 09:56:21




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to tomtoney, 08-17-2004 06:21:42  
I would agree with the others. A 5' bush hog will work just fine with your Ford. Be sure to use the ORC to keep the hog from pushing the tractor when you try to stop. Also,you can change gears without waithng for the blade to stop turning.

steveormary



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CowBoy

08-17-2004 17:43:57




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 Re: bush hog size/conversion to 12 volt in reply to steveormary, 08-17-2004 09:56:21  
Thank You ALL! Wow that was fast. I appreciate all the info. I"m sure as I get further along I"ll be back here again.



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