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Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill

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Roy in Ky

08-31-2004 18:24:02

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Any body ever have pto and transmission pop out of first gear while bush hogging (down hill )on a fairly steep KY hillside ? It feels kinda like a roller coaster . Happened 3 times this evening. Do I need ,clutch Pto,shift fork in tranny ?Any ideas greatly apreshe8ed :) Thanks guys

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John N KY

09-01-2004 10:34:34

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

Yeah I know what you mean, mine jumps out of gear as well. I have learned to keep my knee against the shifter when on a steep hill but last Saturday when I mowed a hill for my neighbor I had to use my feet on the radius rods to stay in the seat so I just held on to it. Kinda odd feeling laying back that fer on yur tractor.

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

09-01-2004 07:12:13

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

I just recently replaced my 1/3 gear detent ball and spring, for a similar reason (in this part of Texas I don"t have any really big hills, but my 8N would pop out of 1st or 3rd under a heavy load). Really easy to do. The detent ball is a 3/8" steel ball. The spring is about 1, 1 1/4 long or so. Remove the transmission cover, the spring and detent is just to the right of center along the back of the opening. The spring is easy to remove... the ball a little trickier. I took a big magnet and stuck it on a little, narrow, screwdriver and carefully (without touching the sides) reached down in that hole and stuck to the ball and pulled "er out. Now, remember that the detent ball is supposed to be 3/8"... the ball that I pulled out was no more than 1/4". What a difference!!!

Steve

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E. Ray

09-01-2004 04:54:28

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

Yea..... ...Had the same thing happen to me on my Jubilee. I live near the Ky. River in Clark Co., Ky. Hill was so steep that one, or the other, rear wheels would turn backwards every now and again. I now hold the tractor in gear with my knee against the shifter. Luckily I was near the bottom when it happened. First time I mowed that area, I made the mistake of touching one brake. Talk about a thrill. Didn�t have time to think about what to do, just had to react.(GET OFF THE BRAKE STUPID) This is one of the times where I wondered how a newbie ever learns to work with one of this machines with-out getting killed..... ..... E. Ray

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Len....NY

09-01-2004 01:19:11

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

Hey Roy,when you pull the tranny cover to check for wear & tear put 'er in neutral and watch for a small detent spring between a couple of bolts close to the seat.Not a lot of pressure but easy to lose. While your in there check the set screws holding the shift rails. Oh! yeah disconnect power to switch first. Good luck

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Bob

08-31-2004 20:48:15

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

It is NOT UNCOMMON for 'N's to jump out of gear while coasting downhill.

For operation on hilly terain, there is NO SUSTITUTE for properly functioning brakes, and an experienced operator. These machines are not toys for kids or inexperienced operators, especially around hilly areas, or even worse, slopes AND water.

There have been a couple of posts on here over the years about near family tragedies when an 'N has jumped out of gear on a slope.

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Don (WA)

08-31-2004 20:17:00

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

Only happened to me once - I have a long, twisty and steep driveway, and once was enough. Now when I go down that hill I keep my knee firmly propped against the shift lever, constantly forcing it forward!

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kennyb

08-31-2004 19:37:59

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

Never happened to me thank goodness curious what part of ky are you from iam from lake malone and a 8n lover

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Roy in Ky

09-01-2004 18:33:54

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to kennyb, 08-31-2004 19:37:59

Thanks for the info kennyb ,Iam in the mercer co area. I used to go to lake malone as a kid (Good times !) I still have family in cental city area . Love my 8n but were still getting aqainted as I've only had it 2 months and its has been in running condition half that time :} .SO far I've rewired it ,removed fuel tank and cleaned and sealed it,and repaired the carb. ,but im getting there ,If I can keep all 4 wheels on the bottom it will be great .

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YEP!! Larry 8N75381

08-31-2004 18:45:16

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Re: Weeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Downhill in reply to Roy in Ky, 08-31-2004 18:24:02

I was going down one of the hills on my (in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mtns.) Virginia farm in 1st gear on an 8N. Luckily, it has decent brakes and I was not too far from the bottom. CHEAP THRILL!!! :-)

Now this 8N has been not well taken care of before I got it. Never had any indication of it coming out of gear going up hill, THAT would be even more "interesting"!!! So I held the gear shift engaged down the next hill with one hand and steered with the other. Good thing the N's are so easy to steer. That may be the thing you'll have to do.

Wear in the "dog" clutch for 1st gear caused by shifting too soon!! Had a pto clutch do the same thing but that was from the shifter not engaging the clutch fully.

Good luck,
Regards,
Larry

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