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PJF

09-01-2004 10:47:08




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I am looking at a tractor. The people selling the tractor said it is a 52' 8N, but all indications point to a 9N prior to 48'. It has a brake on both sides and a 3 speed. No Ford markings on either side of the hood. It is painted red and gray. The engine serial number does begin with 8N, but probably does not mean a thing for the rest of the tractor.

They are asking $3500 with a trip dump loader, tire chains and rear blade. The bucket on the loader looks like it was home made.

The price seems a little steep? It runs very good and appears to be sound.

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Packrat in NH

09-02-2004 10:27:28




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to PJF, 09-01-2004 10:47:08  
I paid 750.00 dollars for my 51 8N.It needed nothing, I put a loader on it and have been running it for 3 years and have done nothing to it 'cept change the plugs a couple of times.

They carbon up after a few hours of running. I'll put a kit in the carb this winter and see if that solves the issue. It has a few dings and dents, nothing you notice at a glance but if I had the time it would be fun to replace the sheetmetal and have it painted. My point here is look around real hard, there are lots of 8N's in barns and in bushes not being used, Pick one up that will sorta' run for a grand and invest the two grand in it and you would have a real gem.

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Wi Craig

09-01-2004 16:21:48




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to PJF, 09-01-2004 10:47:08  
I'd walk away. I never liked buying something from people that didn't even know what they were selling. Always made me think they really knew what it was but sorta just forgot. And then it comes to mind, what problems aren't they telling me about the tractor.

As far as trip buckets, had one on an old case, will never have another.

With what I'm picturing, not seeing the tractor, maybe somewhere in the $2000s providing tires, trans, and 3 pt are good. Good luck what ever you decide. Craig

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Bob - MI

09-01-2004 12:39:21




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to PJF, 09-01-2004 10:47:08  
Lots of people think all Fords are 8n's. More don't know there were 2n's or 9n's.

I have found that sellers aren't always real sharp. Sometimes that can work to your advantage.

3 speed is not an 8n. Pretty simple there. Rear wheels are an easy tip off. Small bolt circle = 8n Large center hub, large bolt circle = 2n/9n

Check out John Smith's tractor page for more specifics.

Pricing is a little steep. Do your best to get to the low $2's

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Russ in SoCal

09-01-2004 11:55:15




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to PJF, 09-01-2004 10:47:08  
PJ,
You are now entering the world of science. How to buy a tractor. Unfortunately, sellers tend to be in the world of science fiction. What do you want the tractor to do? Blades are good. Loaders in the backyard are good. Loaders ON a tractor are not good. If you really need the loader, you have to load the tires or occupy your lift with weight. If the tires have Calcium chloride and it has leaked, it will eventually eat the rims. Check the left column of this site under Research and Info for Tractor Values. See what they sell for in your area. Also, what OH Boy said about current ads.
Then go to the link below. Check the section on identifying your tractor. Bring a wire brush and a good light to check casting dates. (You have already correctly identified it as a "hybrid.") Then decide which of the "How to buy" issues are important to you. $3500 for a mechanically very good tractor with the equipment you mention is pushinmg the upper limit pretty hard.
Unless buying a tractor needing an engine overhaul, I"d rather have the $2500 tractor and the grand in my pocket to spend how I want.
Good luck,
Russ

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Russ in SoCal

09-01-2004 12:09:43




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 P.S. in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-01-2004 11:55:15  
The "How to buy" section is under FAQ"s at the link.



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Russ in SoCal

09-01-2004 12:00:49




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 P.S. in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-01-2004 11:55:15  
The "How to buy" section is under FAQ"s at the link.



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souNdguy

09-01-2004 11:36:29




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to PJF, 09-01-2004 10:47:08  
Sounds like they have an 8n engine in a 9n chassie.. very common.

You'll have to decide the approximate age of the chassie by looking at other things.. like location of the front spindle grease zerks, rear hubs, radious rods, sheet metal composition, steering pedistal composition, starter button location, and dipstick location for the tranny fluid, and differences inthe brake pedals.

Go to the smioths site for a very informative list.

3500 is a tad high. A good running 2n or 9n here commands high 2k's.. addition of a loader adds about 300 at most.. especially for a trip loader and a cobbled bucket.. rear blade 50-100 bucks at most. Try to whittle him back to 3k or less. He obviously doesn't even know what he has.. it is a sure bet that he hasn't done extensive work on it as he doesn't know the year / model.. and some parts are year model specific.. like ignition parts, steering parts.. etc.

If it is in good condition don't let the 2n/9n vs 8n scare you... a small 'kit' from a fellow list member Zane sherman will make the draft only 3pt lift work like an 8n's position control lift. Once you have that, the 9n/2n function virtually identical to an early 8n.. save some gearing, steering setup and brakes. In fact.. I like the steering on a 9n/2n better than the early 8n. Late 8n is a deffinate improvement though..

Soundguy

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PJF

09-01-2004 14:47:27




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to souNdguy, 09-01-2004 11:36:29  
Thank you for your help! I did not know a thing about Ford 9N, 2N or 8N"s until this week, but boy am I learning.

We have 5 acres and need an economical way to move some soil, snow, till, smooth the drive after heavy rains and what have you. They sure look like a sharp tractor.

Thanks again!!

PJF



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Price..John,PA

09-01-2004 10:57:49




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to PJF, 09-01-2004 10:47:08  
From what you describe possible 9N or2N.
Sounds like the price is a starting point. I mean, that's better than "I don't know what to charge, what do you think?"

Maybe negotiate to a lower price that is in your favor. Hope this helps.



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OH Boy

09-01-2004 11:24:02




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to Price..John,PA, 09-01-2004 10:57:49  
Go to the Photo Ads section here and find a few 9n/2n ads to print off and use as 'comparables' to help in negotating a lower price.



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Good Idea..John,Pa

09-01-2004 18:40:33




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 Re: 8N or 9N in reply to OH Boy, 09-01-2004 11:24:02  
Pictures are worth 1000's of WORDS.



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