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8ngreenhorn

09-03-2004 18:16:56




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I figgure I gots to replace my tube (that leaking stem is pullin" away from the tube). Is that a pain in the neck? I"ll pay a ag-tire guy if doin" it m"self is a real rumble... Whaddya tink, boys?




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Leroy

09-04-2004 05:13:41




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 09-03-2004 18:16:56  
If the rest of the tube is good no nead to replace, just have the stem cut off and a new one glued on, same procidure that is used to change the front tubes to use fluid in them, cheaper than new tube, all normal procidure fore a good farm tire dealer



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Dan

09-04-2004 04:47:34




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 09-03-2004 18:16:56  
I will make two comments - like Dell, I agree it is not worth buying and keeping tire tools unless you have multiple tractors, or live in the thorn infested property and are changing the tubes a lot. If you know someone who has the tools (like I do) then it is do-able and if you like to learn new things, it is a good thing to know how to do in case you HAVE to do it yourself in the future.

But, unlike Dell, I will tell you in a more repectful manner instead of slapping you verbally THEN signing "Respectfully" Dan. Dell is a great resource, and never fails to offer good advise on a regular basis, but is a bit caustic in his approach and makes you pay in some manner for that advise. I have been at the end of one of his verbal lashings, and while the advise was good, I would have just as soon not read it and felt I was being chastised by my father for asking a simple question. I have a sense of humor just as good as the rest, but that doesn't mean I laugh when people make fun of disabled people either. Before the Dell supporters start streaming out of the woodwork - this is ONLY my opinion based on how I was raised - if you don't have something NICE to say - don't say anything at all.

Good luck,
Dan

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Drill Instructors..John,P

09-04-2004 09:30:49




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to Dan, 09-04-2004 04:47:34  
We only have one (1) place left. THIS FORUM.



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Ron/PA

09-03-2004 20:28:36




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 09-03-2004 18:16:56  
Greenhorn, I've changed plenty of them, and given the choice I'll pay someone everytime. I always figure I'm willing to sell the right tire to pay for the left tube as long as someone else does all the poundin and grunting. Good luck Ron



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byte . . . Dell (WA)

09-03-2004 19:49:18




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 09-03-2004 18:16:56  
greenhorn..... ...BYTE THE BULLETT, have yer tube changed by an experienced AG-TIRE man, yer in over yer head. How do I know? Iff'n ya knew how to do it, you wouldn't be askin' questions. Ya gotts all weekend to chase around and diddle with it. Tire tools gonna cost ya $50 min, and yer gonnna ruin yer first tube (don't ask) And how many rear tractor tires ya gonnna change in yer lifetime? Somethings, sometimes, it don't pay to do yer self.

Iff'n ya can't afford it, go sell some blood, take in some laundry. Stand at a free-way exit with cardboard sign "Will Work for Food" ...er... "Will Work for Tire"? be certain to put a "God Bless" at the bottom of sign, practice yer best hangdog look, don't shave or look anyone in the eye and wear yer ratty army field jacket, and have a coffee can for donations.

Byte the bullet, pay to have the tire changed..... ...respectfully, Dell

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Dell...John,PA

09-04-2004 03:46:13




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to byte . . . Dell (WA), 09-03-2004 19:49:18  
I have the same problem. ::: We know how to DO things but sometimes it's harder to EXPLAIN things that gets the point aCross. Had things blow up on me so often when I was a ROTC instructor, years ago.



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By the way...John,PA

09-04-2004 04:20:29




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to Dell...John,PA, 09-04-2004 03:46:13  
I had to inform the waiting family members, that Mr. McQuay, the SirName attached to the large refrigeration system, PASSED AWAY. I had Mr. McQuay as a passenger onboard DuPont airplanes years ago. He was an early pioneer, along with General Electric and others, of the refrigeration and air conditioning industry.

In other words, I wasn't able to make a satisfactory FIELD REPAIR to the system, and now the equipment is DESTROYED. TOO BAD.

Although the name MCQUAY is still used today, all they make now is JUNK.

The family is making preparations to LEASE their farm to a neighbor who is my PRIMARY account.

SO LONG MR MCQUAY! John,PA

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Dan (NE)

09-04-2004 09:13:18




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to By the way...John,PA, 09-04-2004 04:20:29  
huh?



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Follow-up...John,PA

09-04-2004 07:13:27




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to By the way...John,PA, 09-04-2004 04:20:29  
I advised the family's insurance carrier of the situation. I reported to the claims adjuster who called in the forensic expert and recommended that the insurance co. never allow that fellow on the property again. He had absolutely no paractical experience with our type of equipment, and, that he reported to me that he gets all HE needs from the internet.

My first statement to the expert was "we either had a phase reversal, or, we dropped a leg on the 3 phase power supply.

Well, it has been confirmed. The next door neighbor had a large transformer "BLOW UP". Documented and everything.

I just reported to the claims adjuster for NATIONWIDE, our file is closed, although, maybe their claim number may still be OPEN. There might still be hope for a good customer. GREAT PEACHES! Regards, John,PA.

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Adam Paul

09-03-2004 22:17:48




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to byte . . . Dell (WA), 09-03-2004 19:49:18  
Dell, I enjoyed your post!
AP



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8Ner

09-03-2004 19:57:12




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to byte . . . Dell (WA), 09-03-2004 19:49:18  
Dell, how can you sign your e-mails "respectively". There was nothing in your reply that was respectful. No wonder you live on the side of a mountain with all the other old goats. You really need to get into town with other people more often. 8Ner



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Dave TX

09-03-2004 23:02:35




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8Ner, 09-03-2004 19:57:12  
Sooooo Dell was being disrespectful? - this is the same Dell that YOU compare to an "old Goat". So in one swipe you make fun of people living on the sides of mountains, the old, and goats. Hummm seems like we have the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. By the way the word is "respectfully" - the way Dell uses it - not "respectively".....

respectfully - or in your case respectively - Dave

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hvw

09-04-2004 09:55:48




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to Dave TX, 09-03-2004 23:02:35  
Wish I lived on the side of a mountain.



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Ron/PA

09-03-2004 20:25:13




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8Ner, 09-03-2004 19:57:12  
Guess you don't have any humor in that there town of yers do ya? It's a shame it's an enjoyable experience.
Lighten up and learn to laugh a bit, it's only life and you'll never get out of it alive. Ron



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8Ner

09-03-2004 20:58:52




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to Ron/PA, 09-03-2004 20:25:13  
There was no humor in that responce. In one sentence he took a swipe at the homeless, the down trodden, veterans, the poor, and God.Where is the humor. He sounds like a frustrated, unfullfilled, mean old man



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PoorHomelessVetInTexas

09-03-2004 22:44:49




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8Ner, 09-03-2004 20:58:52  
What's funnier than a poor, homeless, down trodden veteran? We like to go downtown on Saturdays and make fun of them. Sometimes we throw fruit at them when we want to have a real good laugh. As far as takin a swipe at God - I didn't see it. As a matter of fact Dell usually makes me laugh. If anyone here has a corncob up his (or her(gotta be politically correct)) oriface - its....well not Dell...:o{

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Rob N VA

09-03-2004 22:16:50




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8Ner, 09-03-2004 20:58:52  
I don"t usually but, I will disagree with Dell on one thing he said. Changing the tube on a rear tire is as easy as doing the same repair to a bicycle. Shouldn"t take you more than an hour, just be sure to use pleny of wd-40 to loosen it up. Those tire guys make way too much money for what they do. Save the hundred bucks, or fifty, or whatever and do it yourself...you"ll be glad you did.



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Adam Paul

09-03-2004 22:16:42




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 Yes there was! Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8Ner, 09-03-2004 20:58:52  
8Ner, I don't thing Dell said anything wrong about the homeless, the down trodden, veterans, the poor, and God... I find it terrific. I'm in the Atlanta area, (Dell, you come to Atlanta, and didn't let us know?!?!?!) and I see these beggers all around!!! You know what else, so did the exposé news reporters!!! They found these BUMS leaving there sign held exit, walking a half mile to the nearest parking lot and getting into their SUV where they drove it home to their fancy neighborhood. I thought his message was great. I know I'm cranky and frustrated right now, and I'll tell you why in a minute but since you tripped me off, I'm going to keep going! I don't understand how you can have the disposition to be so politically correct, and still own an "N"??? One would think that you'd sell the "N" or never owned one in the first place in lieu of some modern safety featured "can't get your self hurt on" style riding mower!!!
8Ner, I'm sorry I'm coming down on you; it's probably just the luck of the draw.
I'm cranky and frustrated for one over the recent terrorism in Russia with the school children, the recent protesters in NYC (an embarrassment to me as an American), and the fact that I've got family and friends in Florida that have an major sense of impending doom with a hurricane the size of Texas!!!! Dell has a right (not that I think he sounded that way) to be cranky and frustrated too!!! We all should! One of the freedoms we have here is the right to free speech. Dell was not yelling fire in a movie theater; he was simply helping a guy with a tire...
All this political correctness cr*p as got to go!!!
So, I'm going to call you an a$$ for being so politically correct!!!
Don't worry; I'm a nice guy and tomorrow or the next day I'll apologize, but not tonight.
Please try to lighten up.
Respectfully,
Adam

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Cargocult

09-04-2004 04:24:28




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 Re: Yes there was! Re: replacing a tube in reply to Adam Paul, 09-03-2004 22:16:42  
Right ON!! Political Correctness is BAD!



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way2goAdam

09-03-2004 23:10:12




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 Re: Yes there was! Re: replacing a tube in reply to Adam Paul, 09-03-2004 22:16:42  
Thanks for nothing Adam. We had people like 8Ner fooled all these years. How the heck am I going to pay for my SUV when you tell all the bleeding hearts our secrets? Hummm maybe if instead of using crutches I'll put my arm inside my shirt and they'll think I only have one arm. I could hold up a sigh saying I lost it in Cambodia one Christmas on a secret mission.



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Bigwheel

09-03-2004 19:00:52




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 09-03-2004 18:16:56  
Greenhorn,
A few months ago I had all four tires changed on my Cub. I had a guy come to my place. They charged $50 service call and $60. per hour for labor. I supplied my own tires and tubes I got from e-bay. This guy was so good he changed all four tires with tubes in barely over an hour. He had specialized tools of course and knew what he was doin. I bet he could do it blind-folded. Total service call with labor $120. Most people on this board told me that if I never did this before I shouldn't try it because it is a back breaking job and if you don't have the right tools you will probably also get hurt. I can tell you it was the best $120 I ever spent. I just watched and enjoyed seeing my Cub with all new paws.

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souNdguy

09-03-2004 18:36:29




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 Re: replacing a tube in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 09-03-2004 18:16:56  
breaking the bead on those big agg tires is a lot of work for the casual tractor owner.

You can either take the whole wheel off and tote it down, or just the rin if it is an easy to remove loop style rim.

You could also call for a farm service.. though those usually have a 50-75$ service charge in my area.

If the tire survives removal, the tube and prep work should be fairly mild.. but get a phone quote anyway..

You may need to wire wheel around the stem hole depending on if it is rough.

On my 8n I bought a handfull of large flat washers and they slid a 'perfect' sized one over the valve stem and it rides between the base o fthe stem and the rim hole securely. My rear rim was good, but I wanted a little extra comfort, as someone enlarged the hole with a drill at one time and made it finger sized.

Soundguy

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