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8N vs 9N for BrushHogging

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Ron Whithey

09-17-2004 07:20:38




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Hello,
I need some advice from you Ford experts. We are looking for a tractor for some brushHogging in our pasture. We have some pecan saplings that need cut down in it aswell.
My father had an 8N when I was a kid and we used it for some brushHogging and I don't rember having any problems with it. I do seem to remember that it did not have a live PTO but we seemed to manage. No my question, I was looking on here and is there a preferance that you would recomend for BrushHogging by picking an 8N or 9N over the other?
Next, I have always heard something about needing an extra clutch or a different clutch or something when brushHogging with an 8N. Is this true and if so please explain what I would need to do.
Thank you,
Ron

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Steve(OR)

09-17-2004 08:55:01




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 Re: 8N vs 9N for BrushHogging in reply to Ron Whithey, 09-17-2004 07:20:38  
One of the disadvantages of having non live pto and hyds is that you can't raise the mower without the blades spinning. Occasionally you will bog down your mower to the point that the locked up blades also lock up the engine when you engage the clutch. If the blades can't spin you can't raise the mower to get it cleared. You will need to disengage the pto and then you can move the tractor until the mower is in a clear area so the blades can spin again, or else shut the tractor off, unhook the pto and then lift the mower. This is what you described as "we seemed to manage".

Live pto and hyds are nice but not necessary.

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Rob

09-17-2004 07:58:26




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 Re: 8N vs 9N for BrushHogging in reply to Ron Whithey, 09-17-2004 07:20:38  
The 9N/2N can pull the same 5' mower but has only about 90% of the 8N horsepower. The 8N has a 4-speed tranny rather than the 3-speed of earlier models. The 9N/2N requires some kind of position control for the lift arms if you're going to mow. Limiter chains are fine, good even, and I use them with the 8N also. The Zane Thang and other aftermarket attachments can do in place of chains. I still like chains.
The rotary mowers are generally good for saplings up to 1". You need an overrunning pto coupler (ORC) with a mower. They are widely available for $55-$60 and a nice, quick-connect ORC is available for those who google "ORC mowers power take off" or such and looks around. Cost a extra $30 but handy if you are using the tractor for other work beside mowing.

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david - or

09-17-2004 07:56:45




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 Re: 8N vs 9N for BrushHogging in reply to Ron Whithey, 09-17-2004 07:20:38  
The 8N has position control and a little more power than the 9N. Both are useful for brush hogging. The 8N has 4 forward speeds which might or might not be usefull -- most 'hogging is done in first gear. But either tractor will work.

Either tractor will need an overrunning clutch between the tractor PTO and the driveshaft. These cost $50 to $100 and are straightforward to attach.



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Dan

09-17-2004 07:54:16




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 Re: 8N vs 9N for BrushHogging in reply to Ron Whithey, 09-17-2004 07:20:38  
The 8N has a tad more power than the 9N, but I wouldn't think it is enough to make a huge difference. Just make sure you put an Over Running Clutch on your PTO shaft so the mower won't "push" you when you push in the clutch. The PTO is joined straight into your tranny and even though you disengage it from the engine when you push in your clutch, the centrifical force of the mower blades will continue to drive your wheels without this Over Running Clutch. It isn't a optional good to have piece of equipment, it is really a requirement in my opinion.

Good luck,
Dan

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Ron Whitney

09-17-2004 19:29:54




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 Re: 8N vs 9N for BrushHogging in reply to Dan, 09-17-2004 07:54:16  
Thank you all for the great tips and advice! I'll keep you updated on how things go. One other question about BrushHogging. With a BrushHog that I guess you would say is a direct shaft? and uses sheer pins instead of a slip clutch, is there an external or some type of aftermarket clutch that can be installed to get away from the sheer pins? and am I understanding correctly that the Over runnig clutch installs between the PTO and the BrushHog drive shaft?
Thanks again!
Ron

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