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2Ner

09-30-2004 20:50:15




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The # 2 cylinder spark plug is getting thumped by something on my 2N. After the engine has run, the metal tab on the bottom of the plug is pushed against the the ignitor thingy and there is obvious wear showing something is hitting it. I added a plug extender and it solves the problem, but Im wondering if I can expect the piston to go through the top of the head. Anyone got an idea to the likely cause? Are the valves close enough to the plug location that a misadjusted or wrong size valve likely to strike the bottom of the plug? How bout a bad connecting bearing? I dont hear any loud clang-it-e-bangidy coming from the engine. Thanks fellas.

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2Ner

10-01-2004 18:27:59




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 Re: spark plug damage in reply to 2Ner, 09-30-2004 20:50:15  
Thanks for your input Dell and Rob. I pulled the valve cover and sure nuf, the exhaust valve spring clip had come off and the valve was ratlin around like a bb in a boxcar.



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thanks . . . Dell (WA)

10-01-2004 19:57:50




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 Re: spark plug damage in reply to 2Ner, 10-01-2004 18:27:59  
2Ner..... ...thanks for follow-up..... ...Dell



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Rob

10-01-2004 03:30:21




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 Check the compression and if in reply to 2Ner, 09-30-2004 20:50:15  
more than 140psi then remove the head and clean the carbon.
If you're getting excessive carbon you might be running a rich fuel mixture. Turn the main adjuster in 1/8-turn and goose the throttle 1/2-full to see if the engine stumbles. If it doesn't stumble do another 1/8-turn. When you get it where you like it then get in the seat, put it in 4th gear, lightly hold on the brake, let out the clutch to just rolling forward, and then quickly move the throttle to 1/2-full as you bear down on the brake to load it. It should come up without stumble and a nice little bit of regular spark knock but not too much. Stumble = too rich; too much spark knock = too lean. "Clatter" is too much spark knock.
Run it 10 or 20 hours and pull the plugs to check the color. You would like to get away from the black but not go to white. You're final adjustment might be as little as 1/16-turn of the main adjust this way but you can get top performance with maximum power and very little to no carbon. Save on that $2 gas, too.

Maybe you're burning oil.

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Dell (WA)

10-01-2004 00:26:51




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 Re: spark plug damage in reply to 2Ner, 09-30-2004 20:50:15  
2Ner..... ...your #2 sparkie is kinda off-set over the exhaust valve. And as the valve lifts it is contacting your sparkie sidelobe and closing it down.

Several things could be happening here.

1) exhaust valve is NOT adjusted correctly Check compression. Iff less than 90psi you may have burned your valve. The exhaust valve keeper could have come loose and the valve is bouncing up against the sparkie. Compression may or may not identify that problem. A visusal check of the valve operation by removeing the side-of-block valve cover will probably show you that problem.

2) you could have a carbon deposit on top of your valve and that is beating your sparkie closed. Usually the carbon will flake off after a little beating, so that problem is not a high possiblity.

3) the use of some EXTENDED NOSE sparkplugs will gett beat by the valve opening. What sparkplug are you using???

4) sometimes the cylinderhead has been milled too much during an overhaul and you've lost the very slight clearance over the valve and the valve is beating yer sparkie.

5) yeah, your piston top could be hitting the top of your milled cylinder head, but I doubt it 'cuz ittabee goin' clackty-clack. But your piston is definately NOT pounding on your sparkie.

Me? Iff'n the compression tested good, in the 120psi ballpark of the other cylinders. And iff'n I wanted to use extended tip sparkies, I'd probably just use the extender. It's a Ford approved device p/n 2N-12426, extender.

Most of the guys find the AutoLite AL-437 to be the best sparkie..... ...Dell, the self-appointed sparkie-meister

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