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OT How to demagnatize a part?

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Pj 8n Wy

09-30-2004 23:07:24




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I have a washer from the locking hub on a Polaris 4 wheeler that is magnatized from years of use. It now will not disengage because of it. The new one is only $12 but if I could demag it I would have a set for the next time. Thanks in advance. Pj




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Barry8N

10-01-2004 11:39:32




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Pj 8n Wy, 09-30-2004 23:07:24  
You can buy a magnetizer/demagnetizer at most electronic supply houses. You can buy a cheap portable plastic one for about $8.00 (Omaha tools manufacturer I believe) or a better quality plug in coil version for about $30.00.
Your choice. Just do a yahoo search for magnetizer and check the version you want.
Great item to have for screwdrivers, etc.



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Ole Texas Boy

10-01-2004 08:11:07




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Pj 8n Wy, 09-30-2004 23:07:24  
Back in the dark ages when I worked for Grumman Aerospace, the VP had a big boat. The compass was never right. We finally figered out that the sun shield on the top was metal alloy and had taken a charge. We hooked up one lead of an arc welder, made a big coil of copper wire and hooked it to one out put of a welder. For a load we hooked the other end to a rod, just needed to draw an arc for a few seconds.

Ok, got the picture? We sat the compass hood in side that coil of wire with a piece of pig iron under that dome and drew an arc with the welding rod. The current flow completely de-magged the dome in a heart beat. Bet your neighbor has a welder or find some guy that has one on a truck, they usually have long leads. Simply make a coil of the positive lead, set the part in the middle and have him draw an arc on something. Bet it works.

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Bill in WI

10-01-2004 07:12:20




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Pj 8n Wy, 09-30-2004 23:07:24  
Try using a soldering gun. It is basically just an AC coil. Hold the trigger, and pass the washer across the edge of the plastic case a few times. Start and end about 1 foot away on either side. Should take care of it. We use a “demagnetizer” for parts that come off of the surface grinders that utilize magnetic chucks that is just a big coil in a box. Takes away all of the residual magnetism. On the other hand, if we want to magnetize something, we just set it in the middle, turn it on for a while, shut it off, and the part is magnetized.

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Rob

10-01-2004 02:58:50




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 Drop it on a concrete floor a few times. in reply to Pj 8n Wy, 09-30-2004 23:07:24  
Dell's on to it. Scramble the structure out of allignment; everything has to be lined up to be a magnet. A washer? Maybe bounce the edge off the anvil several times.



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Russ in SoCal

09-30-2004 23:20:21




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Pj 8n Wy, 09-30-2004 23:07:24  
pj,
The fancy way is to pass it through a coil three or four times. The problem is finding the coil. A shop that does magnaflux (yellow pages?) would have one.
Russ



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Dell (WA)

09-30-2004 23:59:12




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Russ in SoCal, 09-30-2004 23:20:21  
PJ..... ..old fashioned TV repairmen used to have to hand "de-gauss" the front of the color picture tube to get a "pure" color because the little dotmatrix screen would get magnitized from all the electrons. Most modern TV sets have built-in degausser coils around the frontedge of the TV set to automatically degauss the screen every time you turn on the TV set.

A degausser coil is an open-air AC coil and since the coil current is AC, the magnetic field is constantly changing polarity. You start with the magnetic coil on your part and gently "pull" it away, thus weaking the magnetic field effecting the part until the part is "de-magnetized". (about 3 feet away)

Sometimes a big shock will demagnitze a part like hammering it on an anvil..... ...Dell

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Bigwheel

10-01-2004 06:37:25




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Dell (WA), 09-30-2004 23:59:12  
Dell.
My color Sony TV from 1979 has lower right and some upper right discoloration. What can I do do return it back to normal color? I have heard in the past that if a vacuum cleaner is switched on or off next to the tv it can bring on this off color section on the tube. The picture is still very good(second picture tube that I replaced many years ago) but has this bluish tint at the corner. What can I rig up at home to accomplish the de-gaussing?
Thanks.

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trg WY

10-01-2004 06:43:38




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Bigwheel, 10-01-2004 06:37:25  
Is there a stereo speaker in the vicinity of your TV?



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Bigwheel

10-01-2004 08:58:52




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to trg WY, 10-01-2004 06:43:38  
TRG,
Yes I do have a stereo speaker immediately next to the TV and it is that side which has the color problem. That must have done it. However, the speaker has been there from first day the tv was there and it took several years for the discoloration to appear and get bigger. Now, what gizmo can I make to degauss it since the Sony does not have its own as far as I know. I know it doesn't have any external switch or button for it but perhaps there may be something internal. I still have the schematic I got with TV(so such thing nowdays) so I will look at it to see if there is something internal. How about a large strong speaker magnet passed over the vicinity of the defect? Would that work or make it worse? Thanks.

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txblu

10-01-2004 10:32:59




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Bigwheel, 10-01-2004 08:58:52  
We used to make them in the shop. Let's see..... .

Diameter was about 12"
Wire was like 30 AWG magnet wire (insulation is a varnish and much thinner than plastic insulation, but plastic could work too....just bigger wad)

Wound about 100 turns of copper wire around the 12" diam. That's about 314 ft of 30 AWG wire at 104 ohms/1000 ft = ~ 30 ohms. At 115vac, 30 ohms yields about 3 amperes.

That'll work.

Attach a 10 ft (roughly) lamp cord capable of carrying 3 amps @ 115v and wrap the whole thing up in elect tape. Be sure all loop wire and any elect connections are covered. You're dealing with lethal voltage if you contact it so make sure it's covered.

Now you have a round hootus, 12" in diam, about 1" thick with a cord hanging off it.

Plug the cord in and approach your tv. Your tv will have lots of mixed color circles on it when you get close. Hold about 1-2" from glass (parallel to the glass) and move about (around) all over the front, out to the sides and all, in a nice slow circular fashion, for about a minute. Coil should buzz (noise), but shouldn't be getting hot.

Then to finish up, start making full screen width circles and as you start moving the coil away from the face of the TV, make the circles smaller and smaller till you have moved back a couple of feet.

You should now have a "pure" raster. Unplug the coil.
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The vac, or any magnetic field adjacent to the shadow mask of the pic tube will do it.

Mark

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txblu

10-01-2004 06:18:02




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 Re: OT How to demagnatize a part? in reply to Dell (WA), 09-30-2004 23:59:12  
You old P-fart. You stole my line. That's exactly what I was going to say. Grin.

Don't know if I still have mine or not.

Kinda like a magician, standing in front of the tv and customer and making all those colored squiggley lines and doin the back off dance you're talking about.

Great fun days..... ..... ..... ...naw, sucked! LOL

Mark



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