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turtles,yellow jackets, no fire and front mount co

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Gary-8n-fl

10-12-2004 04:51:56




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Well, found another reason I do not like gopher turtles. I ran over an old turtle hole whilst bushhogging and out comes a few hundred yellowjackets. Fun fun..

I had the presence of mind to throttle the tractor down to idle before I jumped off and ran. I did not turn it off and it was in first gear.

Eight bites and a cold shower later I went out to find the 8n had run up on a tree. It hit on the front tire and stalled with no visible damage. I turned off the ignition and retired for beer and football, enough trama for one day.

I went out the next morning figuring I would finish my mowing, however it acts like there is no fire. I did not have a meter to check voltage to the top of the coil, and it was raining so I did not feel like fiddling with it, but the engine turned fine.

Could it have burnt out the coil letting it sit for an hour or so with the key on?

Should I buy a new coil before I go out? Am I jumping to a wrong colclusion? I only get out to the property every 2 weeks and would prefer to save a trip to the store.

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

10-12-2004 07:35:34




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 Re: turtles,yellow jackets, no fire and front moun in reply to Gary-8n-fl, 10-12-2004 04:51:56  
I'd tend to lean more towards points/condensor. You might try cleaning up the points, and checking the gap, first (that probably won't fix it, but it can't hurt).

Like SouNdguy says... it's mighty handy having a spare coil sitting around...

Steve



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Rob

10-12-2004 06:04:49




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 Coil may have been knocked loose. in reply to Gary-8n-fl, 10-12-2004 04:51:56  
If the bail isn't seated properly the coil will move in a head-on with a tree. Bail gets screwed up when a guy pulls out one end to remove the coil. It's probably impossible to get the end of the bail seated properly while the bail is over the top of the coil. The bail might even be bent around and misshapen.
Inspect the wiring front-to-back to see if something was snapped or dislodged.



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souNdguy

10-12-2004 05:10:44




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 Re: turtles,yellow jackets, no fire and front moun in reply to Gary-8n-fl, 10-12-2004 04:51:56  
Could be coil.. could be points. I think I'd grab both, and bet on putting the points in, and keep the coil for a 'what-if' Eventually you may need it.. so a spare coil setting around isn't particularly a bad thing.

Next time, in the time it takes to throttle down, just pull the ignition key. I think you got lucky that the tractor didn't (A) get severly damaged, or (B) damage anyone else's property/person.

Tractors are funny. You can have one that is so weakthat it stalls going up a slight hill.. take that same tractor and put it in a field, and jump off it, and it mows thru a fence with no problem and finds the nearest highway. Same with hard starting tractors.. I've seen ones that had a battery so weak that it would barely turn over, then the poor farmer gets off.. leaves pto in gear and tractor in gear and fumbles around, and shorts the solenoid, tractor fires to life like it never had a problem, pto/mower in gear and kills the old fellow.

When you go out.. take a test light or vom with you along with the points and coil. Like I said.. the coil may not be needed.. but if it is.. it is another trip out there to get one.

good luck

Soundguy

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Russ in SoCal

10-12-2004 19:40:45




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 Re: turtles,yellow jackets, no fire and front moun in reply to souNdguy, 10-12-2004 05:10:44  
First thing I"d put in my repair kit would be a couple quarts of gas and a match. For the yellow jackets, not the tractor. Then I"d check to see if the axle clobbered the distributor cap.



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