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Bowhunter

10-12-2004 07:58:39




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This past week some nice Mexians came to my house when I was working and the wife was home. I had some things in the front yard I was throwing out and they asked if they could take them. My wife called me and asked it it was ok for them to take them..... she called me back and asked if it was ok for them to "take those heavy things on the side of the house too"..... .....I told her NOOOOO OOOOO OO !!!!! !

She said they loaded them up and that she had them take them off the trailer.....I got three of them back..... ..

How hard is it going to be to come up with a new wheel weight for the 8n?

I am ready to kill !!!!

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RussMO

10-12-2004 16:06:03




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to Bowhunter, 10-12-2004 07:58:39  
Tell your wife you love her, and go on with your life..... ..... ....



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Rob

10-12-2004 14:15:37




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 Hard time completing that set. in reply to Bowhunter, 10-12-2004 07:58:39  
You might try the scrap yards. One of them probably has your weight. Any luck you can find it. You'll probably have to buy it back but they would sell it by the pound. Couldn't hurt too bad. Maybe they'll remember those guys what with Tx tags and all.



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Galen

10-12-2004 08:11:06




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to Bowhunter, 10-12-2004 07:58:39  
I saw this on ebay. I thought it might be useful. Hope you get your's back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63979&item=3845686701&rd=1



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souNdguy

10-12-2004 08:06:40




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to Bowhunter, 10-12-2004 07:58:39  
If it were up to me...I'd be looking for a tree with a nice hefty limb, and some good rope.

I've no use for theives and burglers or vandals. As far as I'm concerned that are just using up good air that otherwise law abiding citizens could be breathing.

It's my opinion that if more criminals were um.. 'dispatched' during the commission of their crime.. that our prisons would be doing much much better. Sounds like a hard stance.. but I simply have no use for a criminal..

Sorry for the rant.. I'm just tired of people that prey on other people rather than make an honest living. Reminds me of that fence I just had to put up to keep people off my property.

Any way you can find those guys? Or better yet.. head to the local scrap dealer and see if they have a wheel weight laying around.. it may have been sold for scrap metal.

Soundguy

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Bowhunter

10-12-2004 08:52:18




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to souNdguy, 10-12-2004 08:06:40  

I have "baited" my front yard with more nice stuff for the same idiots to take. I have a feeling it was sold for scrap and they may have gotten 3 bucks for it. Hopefully I can find the beaners and really take it to them.

I remember a scene in a Rutger Hower movie where he was a psychopath who was a truck driver who tied some guys girlfriend to the backend of one truck and the front of another..... I am getting evil here. This is pretty much going to be a rough item to find to match.

When people steal your tractor parts that is beyond personal. I feel like a part of my arm is missing.

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Rob

10-12-2004 11:31:20




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 I don't get the stealing part either. in reply to Bowhunter, 10-12-2004 08:52:18  
Sad mix up but no stealing.

But then...they had a couple strikes against them before they even showed up, huh?



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souNdguy

10-12-2004 11:57:47




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 Re: I don't get the stealing part either. in reply to Rob, 10-12-2004 11:31:20  
Rob & Galen

Reading his message carefully.. it looks like they had permission for the other stuff.. and then picked up the stuff on the side of the house too.. prompting the wife to call for 'clearance'. When he said 'no' All 4 wheel weights should have come out of the salvage truck.. not 3... that is where the stealing took place.

Soundguy



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Galen

10-12-2004 17:17:41




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 Re: I don't get the stealing part either. in reply to souNdguy, 10-12-2004 11:57:47  
Sounder -
I just posted a link on ebay where I happened to see weights for sale - I didn't mean to imply that the ebay ones (or any) were stolen - just thought if Bowhunter needed to find another this was one option. None of us really know if true theft was involved, except the ones who took the goods and God - if it WAS theft then He will keep track of it and deal with it as He sees fit. Now -back to our regularly scheduled program..... ....

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souNdguy

10-13-2004 05:22:33




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 Re: I don't get the stealing part either. in reply to Galen, 10-12-2004 17:17:41  
After posting I realize I stuck your name in their by accident... I think it was gahorn I was refering to... sorry for the confusion.

Based on what we know, ( which is just what we've been told ). It looks like the workers were there to specifically clean up debri in the front yard, and went looking for more stuff, i.e. the weights. It only takes less than average intelegence to identify tractor weights.. especially if they are laying between the tractor and the house.

In any case.. even if they were grabbed by accident.. when that 'accident' was discovered.. all 4 weights should have come out of the truck.. not 3.. that's where I see the 'stealing' occour... not when they were first removed fromthe wall.. but when they were not removed from the truck. And that's giving the workers the benefit of the doubt.

Soundguy

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Galen

10-13-2004 06:37:31




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 Re: I don't get the stealing part either. in reply to souNdguy, 10-13-2004 05:22:33  
Well I just hope he gets his back! When I lived in Kansas City (Independence MO), we had a large woodshed that was completely full when we got the place. I need to get rid of most of it so I put a pallet with about a 1/4 cord on it out by the street. I put a sign "FREE WOOD". In 2 weeks nobody had even stopped. I decided to try an experiment - I changed the sign to read, "FIREWOOD $25 A PALLET". Than night it was GONE. Odd, how as soon as it was percieved to be worth something, it was worth stealing.

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Rob

10-12-2004 14:01:58




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 Sounds like a mix up to me. in reply to souNdguy, 10-12-2004 11:57:47  
Far from stealing.



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souNdguy

10-13-2004 05:32:06




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 Re: Sounds like a mix up to me. in reply to Rob, 10-12-2004 14:01:58  
I'm not sure where you live.. but where I live.. if there is something in my yard.. and you pick it up and put it in your truck.. and i tell you to put it back.. and you don't.. and then leave.. then that is stealing.

I've personally experienced this with junk scroungers myself. At work we accumulate lots of scrap iron from fixing the big equipment and cutting metal pipes.. etc. A couple time a year iron scavangers come in and ask to clean the place up. This last time, I walked out there and showed them the corner of our lot where the scrap is stored. They were told they could have everything in that corner -except- 4 track gear segments that were setting in our side yard ( near the back corner ). Those track gear segments bolt on to one of our bulldozer drive gears, and drives the underside of the track. They are big and heavy.. probably 100# each, and they are expensive.

He started loading stuff, and I saw him wave and drive out. Walking back there I looked for the gear segments.. and sure enough.. he took them. We eventually tracked him down, but after he sold the scrap. Seems he stold from 4 other contractors in the last couple of weeks as well. He's in jail now.. hopefully meeting lots of new 'companions' to keep him company on those long balmy prison nights in florida.

This case is virtually identical.. and is stealing.

Soundguy

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gahorn

10-12-2004 11:11:36




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to Bowhunter, 10-12-2004 08:52:18  
Pardon me, but if you (or your wife) told them it was OK to take the things in the yard...then it"s not stealing. Sounds as if this is a case of mistaken indentification (and racism.) When I remodeled my home, I hired several "contractors" to perform various tasks. The white carpenters stole over $5,000 from me, the electricians skimmed off the materials list, the plumbers stole from the time sheets and THE ONLY FOLKSWHO DID WHAT THEY WERE PAID TO DO, showed up on time every day, stayed late without additional charges until the job was finished, and did quality work were the HISPANIC bricklayers who put rock on the exterior of the house and repaired the failed foundations.

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markct

10-13-2004 06:10:13




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 how is it racism?????? in reply to gahorn, 10-12-2004 11:11:36  
i dont see how its racism, did he say "stupid mexicans" or call them by a racial slur? no he simply said mexicans, if i was in another country i would expect people to refer to me as an "american" its simply a way he identified someone, if he said that 3 tall guys took stuff outa his yard then would that mean he hates tall people? i cant stand how some minorities say its racism if a black, puerto rican, etc commits a crime and is on the loose then they identify his race when describing him or her, there is nothing wrong with that, its part of how they look, its a very neccesary part of identifying them. if they say a male 5 ft 8 tall with dark hair and blue eyes is on the loose then thats a pretty big group, but if they say his race then that narrows it down a decent amount

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bowhunter

10-12-2004 12:47:24




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to gahorn, 10-12-2004 11:11:36  
they took a 25 yr old rototiller that I wanted gone....an old door and frame that needed to go..... .they went on the side of my house when she was on the phone with me and they found (behind my tractor) wheel weights (4) which weigh quite a bit. We are talking about a well kept yard. Not a junkyard. They were pretty much pillaging for things. They loaded them up before they asked permission to remove them. I would call that stealing.....

As for a racial tag, they were not day laborers bidding on a job. They were not doing electrical work. They were grabbing what they could while the wife wasnt looking. It takes effort to grab weights such as these and hustle them to a waiting vehicle. If they wife had not intervened they would have been GONE. Maybe they were outstanding young Hispanic males looking for money to feed their starving children. In Michigan I consider people who speak limited English, drive a truck with Texas plates, and steal from you something different than my buddies down the street or people I work with who happen to be of spanish origin.

I apologize for being insensitive.

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Gaspump

10-13-2004 10:54:08




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to bowhunter , 10-12-2004 12:47:24  
I used to live in Michigan years ago and that is where I learned from Mexican Nationals that they were not of Spanish Origan. They were Mexican and very proud of it! In those days they were allowed to migrate with the harvest and return to Mexico at will. I also have several friends of Spanish Origin from the SW USA and they will very quickly tell you of thier Spanish origins and make it clear that they have roots in Spain! I guess it would be proper to refer to all as of Hispanic Speaking background but I am not going to try that on my English speaking friends of Spanish decent!

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bowhunter

10-12-2004 12:06:41




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 Re: Stolen Wheel Weights in reply to gahorn, 10-12-2004 11:11:36  
they took a 25 yr old rototiller that I wanted gone....an old door and frame that needed to go..... .they went on the side of my house when she was on the phone with me and they found (behind my tractor) wheel weights (4) which weigh quite a bit. We are talking about a well kept yard. Not a junkyard. They were pretty much pillaging for things. They loaded them up before they asked permission to remove them. I would call that stealing.....

As for a racial tag, they were not day laborers bidding on a job. They were not doing electrical work. They were grabbing what they could while the wife wasnt looking. It takes effort to grab weights such as these and hustle them to a waiting vehicle. If they wife had not intervened they would have been GONE. Maybe they were outstanding young Hispanic males looking for money to feed their starving children. In Michigan I consider people who speak limited English, drive a truck with Texas plates, and steal from you something different than my buddies down the street or people I work with who happen to be of spanish origin.

I apologize for being insensitive.

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