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Roy Wilson

11-04-2004 08:56:16




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OK, I am a dummy. Now we got that straight. I put gear oil in my transmission that turned into milky orange mud looking stuff and have decided the gear oil was put in on top of hydo fluid. My lift is no longer lifting unless I hold down the little lever under the seat. If I drain the fluids and refill will this correct my problem. Everyone reccomends something else to use in the tranny, gear lube, hydro fluid. What is the best to use?

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

11-04-2004 10:52:21




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 Re: 8 N Tranny fluid in reply to Roy Wilson, 11-04-2004 08:56:16  
I'd add that whilst you've got it drained, get you about 2 or 3 gallons of diesel. Pour it into the transmission fill hole (after you've replace the drain plugs, of course) and kinda swish it around in there, with your hand and/or a parts cleaning brush (through both of the side inspection covers).
Drain it into a clean drain pan, wait about 30 minutes (for the particles to settle) and repeat, only make sure that you don't pour the solids in.... :-)

I'd do this 5, 6 times or so, before filling it up with fresh GL-1.

Steve

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bj/8n/mt

11-04-2004 10:12:49




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 Re: 8 N Tranny fluid in reply to Roy Wilson, 11-04-2004 08:56:16  
What he [souNdguy] said

and, a transmisson dip stick without a good umbrella to seal the hole will wick in as much water as a bad shifter seal. Also cheap [ten or fifteen bucks] and easier to install.

Your mileage may vary



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souNdguy

11-04-2004 10:05:44




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 Re: 8 N Tranny fluid in reply to Roy Wilson, 11-04-2004 08:56:16  
The most likely cause of your tranny fluid to trun orange and murkey is that you had water in the sump, and it rusted the cast iron isides a tad.. then the water was emulsified with the oil.. leaving you the orange milkshake look.

Hard to diagnose any lift problems while you still have the orange milkshake in their. Go ahead and drain the sump.

You can either use the newer spec NH m2c134d oil or an equivalent UTF fluid.. or the slightly harder to find oem style 90wt mineral oil, which is very close to a modern 90wt gl-1 lube. Napa carries it as part number 65-205 and TSC carries it as 'ford tranny fluid for 1939-1952 tractors. Some wal-marts also carry a generic 90wt gl-1 lube. Price for either lube runs anywhere from a low of 17 bucks from wallmart to 305 bucks from NH depending on flavor you choose.

Change the oil.. then start diagnosing the problem, if it still exists. Incedentally.. the prime casue of the milkshake problem is usually a leaker rubber boot by the tranny shifter.. new boot is cheap.. and well.. not easy to install.. unless you hold your mouth just right and read a few of the proven tips and tricks for boot instalation ( hint.. heat it in a pot of hot water to slide it on easier.. ).That one is courtesy of listmember Dell.

Soundguy

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Roy Wilson

11-04-2004 11:02:05




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 Re: 8 N Tranny fluid in reply to souNdguy, 11-04-2004 10:05:44  
I also thought it might be water when I first noticed it because thats what it resembled but it hasnt been out in the rain, it sits in the shop when not being used and I havent used it in the rain. I really think it is a mix of Hydro/tranny fluid and gear lube. ????? ????



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souNdguy

11-04-2004 11:10:47




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 Re: 8 N Tranny fluid in reply to Roy Wilson, 11-04-2004 11:02:05  
Just plain heating and cooling will cause moisture to form.. look at global precipitation.. heating and cooling.. etc.

Most oils mix fine without emulsifying. If you really want to test it.. pour some of your leftover gear lube into a glass jar and mix in whatever you are refering to as tranny fluid... then stir.. don't shake... shakeing will entrail air and give it a foamed look that will resemble emulsification untill it settles out.

Just for giggles.. what fluids did you mix?

Soundguy

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