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Hydro flush with 6 gallons...?

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8ngreenhorn

11-22-2004 02:46:00




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Can I fill my hydro case- and I mean fill it- with diesel or kerosene to clean it out? Since I won't be running it, will it seep anywhere it shouldn't?




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Jeff-oh

11-22-2004 05:48:34




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 Re: Hydro flush with 6 gallons...? in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 11-22-2004 02:46:00  
This is the method I used...

Open the drains one at a time to handle the gush of fluid. Once you have gone through all the drains then open them all up again with a pan under each and let it drip at least over night. and make sure your lift control is in the down position to drain the piston.

You should plan on "washing/Flushing" out the inside. Particularly if you have water in the oil... i.e. if brown/milky. To wash the inside use either kerosene or diesel. I put mine in a garden sprayer and spray it down. I put the nozzle everywhere I can, up the PTO shaft opening if pulled. Through the Filler hole, through the inspection ports, through each drain plug. I catch the diesel in clean oil pans let it settle then decant the "clean" fluid off the sludge and spray again, and again. Go have a beer and let it drain. I then wipe out the bottom with clean paper towels to get the crud out. (do not use cheap towels here). If your fluid had water in it, the "Milky" oil will continue to appear for a while, I just came back and wiped it out.

If you do not have water in the trans-hydro oil then you do not have to be so anal in cleaning out all the oil in the cavity.

Be sure to do this with good ventilation. The fumes are powerful.

Button her back up and fill. Toward the end, fill slowly... i.e. 1 quart per 5 to 10 minutes. To let it all even out in the three sumps. The first time I changed the oil I did not do this and I over filled by a gallon and a half. And because I did not wash out the back that gallon and a half was now contaminated and useless.

The garden pump sprayer and brass nozzle wand will be much easier on your fingers than a spray bottle.

Hope this helps.
Jeff

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Bruce (VA)

11-22-2004 05:33:55




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 Re: Hydro flush with 6 gallons...? in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 11-22-2004 02:46:00  
I've used the procedure Dan recommends below on my N's & have been pleased w/ the results. Soaking the pump in kerosine doesn't get you much; pull the inspection plates & start flushing it out. On my 50 N, I was cleaning crud out by the handful. I cleaned out my 51 N like this (Zane first told me about it) to free up a sticking exhaust valve & it has worked fine ever since.



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Dan

11-22-2004 04:51:50




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 Re: Hydro flush with 6 gallons...? in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 11-22-2004 02:46:00  
I am assuming you do not want to drop the pump, just clean out the gunk. To clean your hydraulic case, I would drain the fluids, pull the PTO, remove the inspection covers, and spray kerosene in through the openings with a cheap squeeze bottle (like Windex) that has an adjustable nozzle that puts out a good pressure stream, you can find them in the home/garden section. Don't need a ton of kerosene, just enough to coat the bottom good. Soak the bottom awhile, then pull the drain plug, use the spray bottle to spray most of the gunk out the bottom plug. Then use paper towels to wipe up the tough stuff that is being stubborn. Don't look for the easy way here, nothing beats good old elbow grease on this project, and it is messy.

Unlike some opinions, I do believe cleaning the gunk out of the bottom of the hydraulic chamber is important, and keeps that gunk from getting sucked up into your pump and causing premature failure or stuck valves. And, it is a good thing to do if you have several decades worth of gunk at the bottom. Just my opinion for what it is worth.

Good luck,
Dan

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gahorN

11-22-2004 03:51:58




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 Re: Hydro flush with 6 gallons...? in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 11-22-2004 02:46:00  
I wonder why you want to clean the case entirely? (I slso wonder why folks seem to believe their engines, trannys, etc. all will run better/longer if they're washed with concoctions they imagine will make them spotless inside? I wonder why these things run for 50 or 60 years full of gunk/grime so well? If you have a machine that's running well, I'd sure recommend you not try to "fix" it, and if it's not running well then taking it apart to fix it and clean it is probably a better way to do it. Completely filling it with fluid (even the wrong fluid, which is almost any fluid other than what it was designed to be filled with) will make it leak at the wheel seals, ruin your brakes, possibly ruin your clutch if it leaks there, and leak out of all kinds of places like the PTO shifter, etc. (Good advice, and well worth the price.) ;Þ

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