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North Bay, Cana

12-01-2004 11:21:16




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Gentlemen (and Ladies?)

I bought my Ford Ferguson last month and I have used it several times for post holes, but I bought it mainly as a snowblower. I haven’t even had enough time to look for the identification numbers to see which “N” it is. I have a picture if that helps (but I can’t figure out how to post it yet). As I mentioned, I am very mechanically inexperienced, but I want to learn as much as I can, so I will most likely be at this site a lot with questions.

My first question is this: While moving around with the post hole auger raised, I found that it tended to lower itself – slowly at first but faster after it had been used several times. Is it just low on oil or is there a seal or pump problem?

I told you I was green. I look forward to chatting with you all.

North Bay, Canada

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John (Toronto)

12-01-2004 16:08:18




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 Re: new owner - very green in reply to North Bay, Canada, 12-01-2004 11:21:16  
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Hey North Bay!
Nice to meet a fellow Canadian who likes to play in the snow with an N.

Please post a picture when you can (Easy - use the Tractor photo option to post here on this site. When you've finished, view it and right click - chose properties and copy the Address/URL like>Link

Good choice with the N, despite little mechanical experience, I've substancially overhauled most of my tractor over a few years. This site is a Godsend in helping sort out problems, use the archives to research, almost everything you can imagine has already been answered.

I'm wondering about your snowblower. Am I right in assuming that it is a rear mounted V-drag behind blower? That's what I use and is really the only one worth using with the non-live PTO.

Regards,
John

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North Bay, Canada

12-02-2004 07:06:10




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 Re: new owner - very green in reply to John (Toronto), 12-01-2004 16:08:18  
Jonh in Toronto

Thanks for your response. I was hoping I would meet a few other Canucks who can relate to the length & severity of the winter I'm about to face.

I still can't figure out the photo thing (I can't find the Tractor photo option - I just see the Optional Image URL space). If you're willing, you can e-mail me at garymcknight@canada.com and we'll go from there - otherwise I will figure this forum out eventually.

But in the meantime I can tell you that my snowblower is a rear-mounted, rear facing 2 stage unit that I have to push while in reverse. Hopefully my tire chains will help with the traction.

I actually had to do the driveway last night, but I used my rear-mounted blade. But I noticed that the insides of my front wheels became packed with snow which I'm sure will become ice as the winter progresses. Is this a concern?

Thanks for your help.

Gary McKnight
North Bay, Ontario

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John (Toronto)

12-02-2004 19:37:52




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 Picture Posting in reply to North Bay, Canada, 12-02-2004 07:06:10  
Gary:
Sorry, I wasn't more clear in my message about photo posting.

On the left column of this site under Galleries, there is an option for Tractor Photos. This option lets you post a picture in an 'Photo Alblum' section.
Once you've successfully posted your picture in the alblum then you can right click your posted picture, pick up the URL address and returning to this forum post the picture as part of a message.

Regarding snow build-up, just ignore it. When you use the snowblower on a windy day, both you and the tractor will get snow packed in uncomfortable placed but it doesn't do any harm and will fall/melt off quickly enough. I have found occassionally the throttle linkages or govenor in need of a quick trip back to the garage to put a heat gun on stuck parts to get rid of over-reving but that's rare.

The issue you'll have with your blower is the lack of a live PTO. That is when you're backing into deep snow that you'll have to press in the clutch to slow down to avoid bogging down the engine. When the clutch is down, the PTO stops turning and the blower stops. I'm sure you'll find the right touch by shaving the snow down layer by layer to avoid bogging down the engine. Please keep us informed of your experience. Everyone says blowing on an N in reverse is not worth the hassle but I've never tried. My blower faces forward as you can see and you drive into the snow with it dragging the snow into the V-shaped chute and a single stage blower throws it to the side. It works very well in our kind of snow (i.e. not too wet and heavy). If the snow is too heavy, it becomes a box blade allowing me to drag the snow off somewhere but not as efficient.

Keep us all informed of how it goes,

Regards,
John

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Mr Bill No. Mn.

12-01-2004 17:31:31




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 Re: new owner - very green in reply to John (Toronto), 12-01-2004 16:08:18  
Hey John- I have a snowblower similar to that only it was made in Erskine Mn. and it works great except when the snow gets too deep. once I learned how to work it I haven`t had any trouble. I love it, some on this board have said you can`t run a snowblower or a tiller but I tend to differ with them just have to learn how and they work fine.



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Marty 2N IL

12-01-2004 12:22:52




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 Re: new owner - very green in reply to North Bay, Canada, 12-01-2004 11:21:16  
8n's have both breaks on the same side four speed transmission 9&2N have three speeds and a break on each side. I would like to see your picture you can e-mail it to me if you like.
Marty



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Dell (WA)

12-01-2004 11:42:06




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 Re: new owner - very green in reply to North Bay, Canada, 12-01-2004 11:21:16  
El Norte, eh? ..... ....I always thought the PHD had to lower inorder to dig the posthole. (grin)

Actually, you are seeing the effect of the hydraulic oil being warmed up and possibly (heck, likely) leaky 3-point hydraulic lift cylinder. To check, un-bolt your 6" round dipstick plate and shine a torch up into the works while trying to lift any load. Dribbles and drops are kinda acceptable, but squirts are problems.

Tip: 8N's have 4-speed tranny, and 9N/2N's have 3-speed tranny. There ain't much other important differences. Yeah brakes are different, hydraulic pump is different, frontmount/sidemount distributors but the tranny is the BIG clue.

Recommend your very own personal copy of the I&T FO-4 repair manual, $22US (cheap)..... ...Dell

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Bruce (VA)

12-01-2004 11:38:41




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 Re: new owner - very green in reply to North Bay, Canada, 12-01-2004 11:21:16  
Depends on what N you have. If it is a 9 or 2N, it does not have position control, which means the implement is either up or down. Look under the seat; if you see a little lever, pull it up. That puts an 8N in position control mode. If you do not have the lever (and it has a 3-speed tranny & brake levers on both sides) it is a 9 or 2N. What you will need for position control on that tractor is an aftermarket device called a "Zane Thang". Don't have the website, so just Google zane thang. If you do have an 8N, and putting in position control doesn't help, check the fluid level. It's also a possibility that you might have a leaking lift cylinder, but check out the easy stuff first.

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