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8n Points question???? sorry so long

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Rich Zeigler

12-20-2004 06:27:46




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I have a 51 8n that my father and I have restored. We originally put a 8volt battery in it but soon found out that it was a waste and put a 6volt back in it. It has had a problem of shutting off after working it for a little bit. So I checked the archives and thought I found the problem but I have since replaced the coil, iginition switch, points, & condensor. It still continues to loose spark and burn the points. I have regapped the points countless times and stiil have the same problem. If I file the points it'll fire right up. The only thing I can think is that it has a set of super whammy plug wires that we used for our late model race car. Could this be the problem?? I need help winter is here and Northwest Indiana is bound to get hit with some real snow soon.

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or maybe--bj/8n/mt

12-20-2004 08:33:53




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 Re: 8n Points question???? sorry so long in reply to Rich Zeigler, 12-20-2004 06:27:46  
What Dell says AND

Are you using the same feeler gauge that you use to set valves? Even oil that you can't see will burn points. File them and you have a temporary fix until you reuse the oily gauge.

I keep a gauge dedicted to electrical work. Cheap insurance.

Condensors are cheap too. I have seen them bad out of the box so I keep a known good one on my parts shelf.

Your mileage may vary

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Dell (WA)

12-20-2004 08:23:32




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 Re: 8n Points question???? sorry so long in reply to Rich Zeigler, 12-20-2004 06:27:46  
Rich..... ....NEVER APOLOGIZE for LONG QUESTION. The more information that you provide, the less I have to demonstrate my amazing mindreading powers. (grin)

You write..... .."It still continues to loose spark and burn the points. I have regapped the points countless times and stiil have the same problem. If I file the points it'll fire right up"..... ...classic case of BAD CONDENSER. Even new condensers right outta the box are known to be BAD..... .....the amazing Dell, self-appointed sparkie-meister

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Rich Zeigler

12-20-2004 09:26:24




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 Re: 8n Points question???? sorry so long in reply to Dell (WA), 12-20-2004 08:23:32  
Dell you make me laugh and with the last couple weeks I need all the laughing I can get. Thanks I will get a new condensor and give it a try.



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Bob

12-20-2004 06:46:25




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 Re: 8n Points question???? sorry so long in reply to Rich Zeigler, 12-20-2004 06:27:46  
Check the charging voltage at the battery with a good analog voltmeter. After running a while, somewhat above idle, the voltage should approach 7.4 Volts. If the voltage exceeds this level, the regulator may have been set up for the 8 Volt battery. (Many digital meters get a headache from the electrical noise generated by the ignition and charging systems, and don't read accurately.)

Get a new set of QUALITY points and condensor. Be sure the OEM-type ballast resistor is present, and properly connected into the coil primary circuit.

Once you have filed a set of points, in most cases, they will never be as good as new, and ANY dirt or oil on the point file or feeler gauge will cause the points to repeatedly fail. Clean your feeler gauge with a squirt of electrical contact cleaner, and wipe dry with a lint-free cloth before using it to set the points.

Old-fashioned copper wire core spark plug wires are the best for these old 6-Volt systems. Resistor wires will reduce your spark it the plugs, but it's unlikely that's what's burning your points.

If the above does not help, you may have a partially shorted coil the is causing too much primary current to flow through the points.

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souNdguy

12-20-2004 06:34:14




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 Re: 8n Points question???? sorry so long in reply to Rich Zeigler, 12-20-2004 06:27:46  
Metal core plug wires are optimal.. not a problem.

If you are seeing burned points.. I'd look at the capacitor.. might be open. That's a usuale cause of points that burn fast.

Also.. only lube the rubbing block.. never lube the points contacts themselves.

(I'm assuming that this is a side mount unit as well.)

Soundguy



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