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Dell a question about your resistor set up

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old

02-08-2005 11:33:30




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I going to be putting 12 volt on an 8N soon, and was wanting to know why you use that 2 resistor set up instead of say a ballast resistor from a mid 70s dodge. I changed a lot of tractors over to 12 volt and on all of them used a dodge resistor.




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Dell (WA)

02-08-2005 13:37:27




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 11:33:30  
Old..... ...because I am professionally an Electronics Engr w/40yr exp, not a autohouse partsjockey, I suggest 12v frontmount converters use my secret trick current limiting resistor of 0.5 ohms. I have NO KNOWLEDGE what the technical specs are of your "Dodge" ignition resistor is, nor its parts number.

I do know in 1998, that shortly after Standard Ignition started producing their seemingly more desireable modern 12v squarecan frontmount ignition coil, there were a rash of warrentee/failures because the 12v coil was NOT DESIGNED for the typical 14.7v alternator output and it was failing (overheating) due to EXCESS AMPS. (Ohm's Law still rules)

Standard used to include a little piece of toilet paper printed in 6-languages 'cept 'muricum' (but who reads instructions, eh?) advising to use a "current-limiting" resistor of 0.47 ohms with their new 12v coil to prevent coil failures. While 0.47 ohm resistors are common place to real electronics engineering supplyhouses, most 12v tractor converters seem find anything electrical to be technically challenging. (you doubt? check the archives) and 0.47 ohm resistors are NOT COMMON to auto/tractor partshouses. (to my knowledge)

My secret trick 12v current limiting resistor is my solution to the 12v squarecan ignition coil problem, because RadioShack seems to be everywhere and they even have some radioparts including their p/n 271-131 2-pack of 1.0 ohm, 10 watt square power resistors, when connected side-by-side in parallel by twisting their leads together, create a 0.5 ohm, 20 watt squarecan coil current limiting resistor (as originally recommended by Standard) and it works.

Use what ever works for you..... .....respectfully, Dell the self-appointed sparkie-meister

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Jack (NV)

02-08-2005 18:07:16




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to Dell (WA), 02-08-2005 13:37:27  
" . . . not a autohouse partsjockey"

Dell, I'm really sure that you didn't intend to demean anyone that's trying to make an honest living and support their family by selling auto parts. An experienced counterperson can really make a professional mechanic's occupation a whole lot easier.



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old

02-08-2005 14:49:13




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to Dell (WA), 02-08-2005 13:37:27  
The common ballast resister is 1.35ohm and the part number is RU2 you can also get them as low as .35ohm or up to around 2ohm. I reason I like them is most have a metal heat sink on them that is also the way you mount it to something. They will also take move of the bumps that you run in to then the radoi shack ones will. Just my .02 worth



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old

02-08-2005 13:47:04




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to Dell (WA), 02-08-2005 13:37:27  
I understand where your comeing from, I spent year as an electronic teck in the nave so I do have a back ground playing with the sparks. I just wanted to know why you use what you use. I only have one tractor on 6 volt and all my others have a dodge ballast on them. That was all



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Dell (WA)

02-08-2005 13:56:02




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 13:47:04  
Old..... ....iff't yer converting a roundcan sidemount to 12v, use a REAL 12V COIL instead of the cheapy Dodge 12 to 6v converting resistor and the OEM 6v roundcan coil. NAPA p/n IC-14 is a real 12v roundcan coil that needs NO RESISTOR. (and has hotter sparkies to boot)..... ...respectfully, Dell the self-appointed sparkie-meister



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02-08-2005 13:10:51




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 11:33:30  
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souNdguy

02-08-2005 11:42:33




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 11:33:30  
I'm not Dell.. but I'll 'guess' at why. Resistor value. I've not seen a handy chart that breaks down what ignition resistors are what ohm value. I'm sure that there is a 1/2 ohm resistor comercially available on an auto parts shelf that will work. However looking at price.. you'll probably pay more for the ignition resistor.. than a pack of radio shack resistors.

I take it the 8n you are modifying is a front mount?

Soundguy

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old

02-08-2005 13:09:49




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to souNdguy, 02-08-2005 11:42:33  
No side mount, I also like the dodge ballast resistor because most come with built in heat sinks and spade connectors for easy wireing.



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Dell (WA)

02-08-2005 13:52:55




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 13:09:49  
Old..... ....iff't yer converting a roundcan sidemount to 12v, use a REAL 12V COIL instead of the cheapy Dodge 12 to 6v converting resistor and the OEM 6v roundcan coil. NAPA p/n IC-14 is a real 12v roundcan coil that needs NO RESISTOR. (and has hotter sparkies to boot)..... ...respectfully, Dell the self-appointed sparkie-meister



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old

02-08-2005 13:58:06




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to Dell (WA), 02-08-2005 13:52:55  
I go with the dodge balast resistor because its $2 over $30 for the coil. Unless I just plain need a new coil and yes then I go with a 12 voly coil.



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souNdguy

02-08-2005 19:51:25




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 13:58:06  
Napagold IC14SB is a 14.99$ real 12v coil.. And will give you way more sparks than a 6v coil and dropping resistor.

Soundguy



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old

02-08-2005 20:42:20




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to souNdguy, 02-08-2005 19:51:25  
Most be nice the last 12 volt coil I got was around $35



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TKMWATERS

02-08-2005 13:34:51




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 Re: Dell a question about your resistor set up in reply to old, 02-08-2005 13:09:49  
I JUST INSTALLED AN ELECTRONIC IGN. ON MY 9N. FRONT MOUNT DIST. AFTER GETTING SOME RESISTER HELP ( BYPASSING RESISTER)ON THIS SITE IT FIRED UP TODAY FASTER THEN EVER BEFORE.I HIGHLY RECOMEND GOING THIS ROUTE.



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