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8ngreenhorn

03-04-2005 15:08:00




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I'm thinking that the problem with my N is no gas getting into the cyliders. Two weeks ago my wife pulled me down the road and it kicked in a few times. I think I'll try it tomorrow, but is there any problem if we go a 1/4 mile or more?




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Kevin in OK

03-05-2005 06:09:44




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 03-04-2005 15:08:00  
Just keep it in 4th, don't go too fast, and you ought to be okay. The only problem I see with going a 1/4 mile or more is if it doesn't start, you have to turn around and drag it back.



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abjahnke

03-05-2005 00:08:44




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 03-04-2005 15:08:00  
i had same problem , tractor would not start conventional way , but i was pulling it over to a mechanic, i told her i was going to let the clutch out as soon as we got moving in a little bit , it started right away. but when i got to the garage i shut it off and it wouldnt start again the regular way, i have a 1940 ford 9n. my mechanic said i probably have a short in the wiring tube , from the resistor to the starter and generator. and was shorting itself out back to itself. so he bypassed a couple of wires and now it starts in a split second. he said i should take the time to put all new wiring that i could get at. all of it. start at the battery and work your way through the tractor, one wire at a time. make sure you are using heavy enough wire so you dont burn through it. you dont have to over do it . just when you are around the starter, resistor,generator,battery cable, starter to starter button. just ask a parts guy , and try and use wires that are different colors for each catagory , its easier to trace. its worth the time. and who knows it could solve your problem. also there is the points,condenser,coil, replace this stuff as you go . if you want a good reliable tractor, and one that looks good spend time on it. take off the gas lines and blow them out, dont leave them on the carb etc. put new rubber hoses, fan belt and tighten correctly, drain gas tank and flush of debris. all new filters, see if there is a working thermostat, they are cheap. actually all this is relatively inexpensive. then you know what you got. and above all keep it clean. last of all if you dont have a fix it manual , there is the I and T ford shop manual. available thru this site or a farm supply in your area. make sure you get the right one for your model, it will pay for itself. good luck on your tractor. this site is fantastic, there are so many people that really have good information. and use alot of there own time to help us uneducated in the art of tractor repair. abjahnke or doc ps. also change your oils , the engine oil quite often, especially the air filter cup if you have one. this is way different than the new car, it takes much more care. i should also mention there are a few hidden gas filters so find them and replace them , drain the bowl of the carb too.the one bolt on the bottom. after all this your fuel flow should be much better too. also as i said before when you have done this work yourself you know where the problem isnt. just have fun.there is also serveral places the send out parts catalogs for vintage tractors, and the parts include pictures thats a plus. just read the forums on yesterdays tractors for that info or ask for it. bye

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souNdguy

03-05-2005 08:19:56




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to abjahnke, 03-05-2005 00:08:44  
I'm trying to figure out how you have a wire to your starter in the wireing tube on a 9n ???


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abjahnke

03-06-2005 16:30:41




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to souNdguy, 03-05-2005 08:19:56  
I am not a mechanic. My information is not always accurate. My mistake. What I meant was that it is important to check the all wiring from front to back of tractor and assume that there may be a short somewhere. A mechanic friend of mine helped me, so I missed some of what he was doing, but he bypassed the wiring tube through the conduit where he had found a short somewhere after the resistor and leading to the generator. As for the rest, I am totally ignorant about. Sorry...

Once again, get a book/manual for your tractor and read. Wiring is basic on these tractors so just follow one wire to the next. These wires are very old and may contain breaks that you are unable to see.

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souNdguy

03-07-2005 04:28:45




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to abjahnke, 03-06-2005 16:30:41  
Not that it is a big deal.. but I'd consider the generator 'electrically' -before- the resistor, as the generator is the current 'source', and then the resistor as a series load, and then the ignition coil as another series load.. etc.. etc. So..the short if it was before the resistor.. would have been genny to ground.. and if after resistor would have been between resistor and coil.. not resistor and genny.

Anyway... just electronics mumbo jumbo...

Soundguy

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old

03-04-2005 20:35:44




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 03-04-2005 15:08:00  
Put a little oil in each cylinder before you try that. It will help with compression and may also help it start. Not much maybe and once or so.



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Tom Wy

03-04-2005 20:26:00




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 03-04-2005 15:08:00  
When my 2N would ONLY start by pulling (and Barely), I had no compression.
37, 21, 36, 0, dry.
65, 45, 45, 27 wet.
The last attempt it wouldnt even start that way.



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Tymoc

03-04-2005 17:59:51




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 03-04-2005 15:08:00  
Pull the spark plugs and squirt a little gas/ether in each hole,replace plugs and see if she starts - or pull rubber hose off carb. and shoot a little starting fluid into carb. while turning over. (While hose is off see if choke is working.) You can always put a LEATHER GLOVED hand over the intake to try to choke it.



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Bruce (VA)

03-04-2005 16:40:01




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 Re: Pull startin' in reply to 8ngreenhorn, 03-04-2005 15:08:00  
No, not really. Keep it in fourth gear & do not get it much over 5mph. Make sure you turn the gas & key on!



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