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alex hanson

03-06-2005 22:34:04




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my dad passed away and i inheirited an 8n i think, where are the serial numbers to determine what i have? also i have no spark, to actually get to the points, do you have to unbolt the distributer from the block? i took off the cover and without pulling the radiator or unboltting the distributer i dont see how you check your points or put new ones in. also how do you check to see if the coil is any good? where do i get a new set of points and a condenser. this machine has a marvel carb. any help would be appreciated. i am in bend oregon. thanks, alex

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BillM (OH)

03-07-2005 07:27:49




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 Re: 8n in reply to alex hanson, 03-06-2005 22:34:04  
All below is good advice -- but it's quicker to get an I&T F04 manual -- from this site or any tractor store -- it'll tell you most every thing you need to know about keeping these old gals running.



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flathead

03-07-2005 06:38:26




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 Re: 8n in reply to alex hanson, 03-06-2005 22:34:04  
Take care when remounting a front mount distributer. The key on the back of the distributer looks like it could fit in the slot on the end of the camshaft in either of two ways - 180 degrees off. This is not the case. The key and slot are slightly off-center so they only fit one way. It's easy to bugger something up if you get it wrong (dont ask how I know that). You'll know you got it right if the flange on the distributer mates up to the timing cover easily. If it looks like you need to use the bolts to "pull it down" stop, pull it off and rotate the distributor key and try again.

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SteveB(wi)

03-07-2005 05:54:54




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 Re: 8n in reply to alex hanson, 03-06-2005 22:34:04  
Besides this forum Smiths is another good source of information.



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souNdguy

03-07-2005 04:40:37




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 Re: 8n in reply to alex hanson, 03-06-2005 22:34:04  
In addition to the excelent info by Bob, you can also get ignition parts at TSC stores ( not sure if you have TSC in Oregon ).. they sell the points cap, rotor, plugs.. etc.

These units use a metal core plug wire.. not a modern emi/rfi wires. fire order is 1243 and plugs are champion h12 or al 437.. OEM was an h10.. however the h12/al437 works better with modern fuels. Plug gap is .025

Also.. don't use the same feeler gauge for your plugs and points.. unless you reall clean it first. Points don't like any dirt or grease on the contacts.

Best check of the front mount ignition coil is on the tractor, and seeing if you get spark.

If you are handy with an ohm meter you can do a simple go/no go test by measuring ohm on a low scale from the top post to the curly spring.. and ohms on a high scale from the top post to the flat tab. A 'good' reading might be between 1/2 and 2 ohms on the clurly spring.. and 4-7k on the flat tab. This just means you have continuity.. coil could still be technically 'bad'.

Also.. don't overlook the dash mounted ballast resistor.

All hooked up and key on, look for 2.5-3.5v on top of the coil, with points closed.. and full battery volts points open.. asuming 6v electrical system, and oem style coil.

Check and clean all electrical connections from the battery to the key switch, to the resistor, to the coil... etc.

Soundguy

OEM battery polarity is positive ground.

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Jeb2N

03-07-2005 04:55:46




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 Re: 8n in reply to souNdguy, 03-07-2005 04:40:37  
These guys have it down pat. The only other thing I would add is before you go through all that; check these two things first: Good healthy battery, and are you getting juice after the key switch. These key switches are notorious for going bad, even after only a few months. If your key switch is good, then proceed with the other advice as mentioned. Good luck!

Jeb



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Bob

03-06-2005 22:50:13




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 Re: 8n in reply to alex hanson, 03-06-2005 22:34:04  
The tractor serial number is on the upper middle of the left-hand side of the engine block, just below the cylinder head. Once you have the number, look at "serial numbers" on the LH side of this page, below "research and info". Look at this post, from earlier today, where Dell explains some of the "quirks" of the characters stamped by Ford for the serial number:

Link

The distributor is held on with 2 bolts, and is easy to remove to install and set the points. The distributor mates with an offset tab in the front of the camshaft, and can only be installed one way, as long as you are carefull and do not force it.

Points are available at a local NH dealer or at an auto supply, including NAPA. They are gapped at .015". For more information you a search for "points".

Here's some numbers for replacement ignition parts:

Front Mount distributor...

Points:
NAPA #CS35
Standard Ignition Blue Streak #FD-6769X (Premium) Condensor:
NAPA #FA200
Standard Ignition #FD-71 Rotor:
NAPA #FA300
Standard Ignition #FD-104 Distributor Cap:
NAPA #FA350
Standard Ignition #FD-126

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