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Badge243

03-28-2005 04:06:59

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I am rebuilding the rear axle on my Early 8N, new brakes, seal, shims, due to leaks. The question is; do I grease the rear bearing upon assembly or rely on the the hydraulic fluids to lubricate the bearings. Thank you in advance for your response. Badge 243

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jiminoystercreek

03-28-2005 06:21:09

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to Badge243, 03-28-2005 04:06:59

I would grease or put assembly lube on ALL bearings surfaces during assembly. Back in the early 80's I built an air-cooled VW motor for a friend, using STP as an assembly lube. He was supposed to pick up an oil pump and install it before putting the engine in his bug. A couple days later he came by to see me about a generator light that wouldn't go out on the car. When I looked at it, I got concerned because the 'generator' light was really the oil pressure warning light. The speedometer was so old, you couldn't read the words next to the lights. When we got done checking it out we found that he had purchased a 'short shaft' standard beetle oil pump, when the engine required a long shaft Super Beetle oil pump. Thus, no oil pressure for the 85 miles he drove the car. We pulled the motor and split the cases. The only thing in the motor that was bad was the camshaft thrust bearing. $3.00 later we had the motor back in and went and got the correct oil pump. The engine is still running today. I'm not a fan of any particular assembly lube product, but I am convinced that this story would have had a much different version had I not used SOMETHING during the assembly.

Yours in history and truth.

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ZANE

03-28-2005 06:40:20

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to jiminoystercreek, 03-28-2005 06:21:09

Sounds like you are a bug man too.

I just got my 65 bug up and going again after it has been sitting around for the past 10 years or so. I painted it all over inside and out white. It has new tires and the running gear is great. It has actuall 80K miles on it and has not been overhauled.

I am trying to fix it up to pull behind an old Itasca motor home that I foolishly bought from my brother that was also in poor condition. All this is keeping me busy so I guess it is a positive thing to do????? ??

Boy were you lucky that the engine didn't melt!

Zane

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jiminoystercreek

03-28-2005 20:26:24

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to ZANE, 03-28-2005 06:40:20

When you get that motor home finished and need a place to go, hook up that bug and come on down and spend the weekend on me. I have a 68-space RV park in Southeast Texas, about 60 miles from Houston. I'd be honored to have you as a guest. Jim Overly- owner and slave labor
Oyster Creek RV Ranch, Inc.
979 230 9089

My wife is the other owner and I guarantee she ain't slave labor!

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ZANE

03-28-2005 06:45:27

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to ZANE, 03-28-2005 06:40:20

Picture of my wife Gina and the bug we just got painted after working on it for months.

Used Wallmart Rustoleum paint and it looks good!

Believe it or don't!

Zane

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jiminoystercreek

03-28-2005 20:19:21

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to ZANE, 03-28-2005 06:45:27

Looks mighty fine! I've been fooling with those things for 35 years. When I was in the Navy, I was broke all the time, so I used to built street race bug motors to make a little extra money. My brother is still doing them after 35 years. He lives in Las Vegas. He does restorations on mostly convertibles and makes good money on them.

I built a drag race bug motor for myself in 1983 that had a 4-71 blower, enderle injector and ran 70% nitro. Had it mounted in a dragster chassis. The engine made it one and a half passes down the 1/4 mile. Blew the cases completely apart when it let go and STUCK the crank nearly 3" in the track. Fremont Dragstrip outlawed blown fuel VW motors right then and there. Ahhh, but it was fun, though!

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Rob

03-28-2005 05:00:56

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to Badge243, 03-28-2005 04:06:59

You going to under-fill the hydraulics? Lot of guys say that"s the way to go. You do that, you better have grease on that bearing.

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Dan

03-28-2005 04:42:27

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Re: 8N rear bearings in reply to Badge243, 03-28-2005 04:06:59

If you have an early 8N with only a outer oil seal, the bearings will be splash lubricated by the gear oil in the differential. If you have a latter model 8N with a inner and outer oil seal, you will need to grease the bearings good before you install them.

BTW - I greased my 48 8N rear bearing with assembly grease to lubricate until the gear oil could get to it.

Good luck,
Dan

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