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R L H

03-30-2005 09:24:29




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Just bought a 52 8N and noticed the right rear wheel has a fair amount of free play in it. This is when you grab the top of the tire and push and pull on it. I can see where there is clearance between the axle nut and the wheel drum. There is 2 thin washers between them. On the other side there appears to be a larger washer. And, not as much free play. Also, the axle nuts have been spot welded on the outside. Any suggestions? Thanks, Rick

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Rob

03-30-2005 14:00:01




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 Re: loose rear wheel in reply to R L H, 03-30-2005 09:24:29  
This 8N had a loose hub like yours. Ended up the hub and axle spines were fine and only problem was the threads. I believe I had to grind a little to get the nut off there, maybe not. That"s all out on the end so it don"t matter much.
Anyway, one of those two-pieces bad-thread nuts worked good and took care of the problem for lo these last several, few years.
A triangle file cleans threads ok. if your a steady-hand. I had only 3 or 4 good threads up next to the hub anyway, the rest were pretty much little-bitty speed-bump kinda looking things.

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Dell (WA)

03-30-2005 12:16:43




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 Re: loose rear wheel in reply to R L H, 03-30-2005 09:24:29  
Rick..... ..iff'n yer rear axle nuts been spot-welded, gonnna be Billy-H3LL tighten'em to 450 ft/lbs. And iff'n ya can see washer slop when ya muscle yer reartires top, then that FARMERIZED WELD REPAIR didn't fix yer worn HUBS, did itt??. New Hubs $50 (cheap) New 2-piece squeeze'm axle nut $25. (better'n OEM nut w/lock-ring) Generally, the MUCH HARDER rear axle splines don't wear like the hub does. Donnno how yer gonnna gitt yer rear-NUTSOFF, yer there and you can be clever enuff to figgger it out. Don't try and buy a new 1-1/8-18 die $$$ to clean yer welded threads, by a square thread cleaner file. (they gott'em, gotta ask)..... ..Dell

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FLAcharlie

03-30-2005 09:40:37




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 Re: loose rear wheel in reply to R L H, 03-30-2005 09:24:29  
or, make sure that axle nut is torqued to the required 450 ft-lbs (I think that's it). If it is not, you will get that kind of action rocking the wheel.



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Bob

03-30-2005 09:38:30




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 Re: loose rear wheel in reply to R L H, 03-30-2005 09:24:29  
The hubs are loose because of wear in the splines. There are a number of "band-aid" fixes, but generally the hubs wear more than the axles, and the hubs are readily available for a reasonable price.

My suggestion would be to examine the axles' splines for wear, and if they look OK, replace the hubs.

The nuts need to be torqued to 450 FT.LBS., and retorqued a few times, with a few hours of operation between re-checks.

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Bill in WI

03-30-2005 09:36:22




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 Re: loose rear wheel in reply to R L H, 03-30-2005 09:24:29  
Sounds like you are describing mine before I replaced both the hub and axle. (and all related bearings and seals as well) Pull the hub off and look for wear on the tapered axle splines and the mating surface of the hub; I have a feeling you will have found your problem by that point. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I think it was around $200 for parts alone. One tidbit of advice: make sure you have, or have ready access to, a large quantity / variety of the shims to set the bearing preload when you are reassembling it. I thought I had enough but didn’t and spent at least a half a day chasing enough of them down.

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