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Never end clutch saga

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premie-farmer

04-01-2005 05:57:41




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Well attempted adjustment last night in several points on the adj screw, took forever to get the cotter pins out (there were two in the hole). Fired her up no change in fact after shut down and last adjustment she wont start my guess is clutch is gone and safety switch will no longer work. She's in neutral and rolls fairly easily so gonna have to split the ol girl.

Any suggested things I should also do while I've got her appart? Read about tranny front seal and brake/clutch rod bushing so will look at those for sure. It's gonna be difficult since I'll have to do it in the barn lot (on the ground no concrete) in a tarp 10X20 garage since new barn not started since she broke as I was getting ready to start working new barn this weekend.

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FC

04-01-2005 09:07:18




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 Re: Never end clutch saga in reply to premie-farmer, 04-01-2005 05:57:41  
I never had a problem with sticking clutch until I changed to the thinner tranny oil (134?). Never connected the two at first, but changed back to the GL1, and sticking clutch disappeared shortly thereafter. Now, with that said, I still need to split, and replact clutch and seal, etc, but I have a little time now. Lesson learned - don't put the newer thinner tranny oil in an old leaky tranny. Actually my lift works much better with the thicker GL1 anyway, so I am glad I changed back.

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ZANE

04-01-2005 08:07:04




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 Re: Never end clutch saga in reply to premie-farmer, 04-01-2005 05:57:41  
The best and easiest way to do this is to attach a chain hoist to the steering wheel and put a rolling floor jack under the clutch housing. Remove the caps from the radius rods at the front of the running boards. Remove the bolts from the steering sector where it bolts to the clutch housing. Remove any wires to the rear of the tractor such as tail or work lights. Remove the battery and the bolts that are around the circumference of the clutch housing. Tie a rope around the hood and the oil pan to help support some of the weight. I only did this occasionally did this but it just might be less stressful on the other stuff that will be hanging from the steering wheel.
Raise the chain hoist and the battery box will come above the clutch housing and allow it to clear when the rear of the tractor is rolled back. This is a good time to also check to be sure all the bolts in the auxillary transmission are tight because they are famous for falling off the front of the transmission when they get some age on them.
I would also check the clutch condition by removing the pressure plate and inspect it closely for broken springs or loose rivets holding the facing on. Also check the pilot bearing or bushing in the flywheel for wear. Always replace the throw out bearing.
Milling the flywheel is not usually required. A few lines cut around the circumference is not going to make any difference in the clutch operation. Do it if it makes you feel good!

Zane

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Earl in MS

04-01-2005 11:00:56




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 Re: Never end clutch saga in reply to ZANE, 04-01-2005 08:07:04  
Zane,

I've noticed several times that you never mention taking the rear tie rod ends loose when the radius rods are disconnected. But don't you also have to disconnect those tie rod ends to roll back the rear half?

Thanks, Earl



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ZANE

04-01-2005 16:45:27




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 Re: Never end clutch saga in reply to Earl in MS, 04-01-2005 11:00:56  
No. They stay with the steering sector and with the front end.



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premie-farmer

04-01-2005 08:23:22




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 Re: Never ending clutch saga in reply to ZANE, 04-01-2005 08:07:04  
Hey Zane will my 2 ton shop crane work in leu of a chain hoist to hoist up the steering wheel since I'll have to do this in the barn lot?



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ZANE

04-01-2005 16:46:56




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 Re: Never ending clutch saga in reply to premie-farmer, 04-01-2005 08:23:22  
Yes. The front end is not as heavy as you might think when it is hung this way.

Zane



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Dell (WA)

04-01-2005 11:06:19




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 Re: Never ending clutch saga in reply to premie-farmer, 04-01-2005 08:23:22  
Premie..... ...yeah, enny ol'sky-hook will work to hold up yer steering wheel/tractor like Zane suggests. Me? I'd putt-sum wooden blocks under the both haffs of the tractor until time to reverse the split..... ..Dell



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duey

04-01-2005 07:45:50




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 Re: Never end clutch saga in reply to premie-farmer, 04-01-2005 05:57:41  
P.F., have a good look at the pilot bearing and the part of the transmission shaft that rides in it. Now's the time.

Tally the spare parts you may find in the bottom of the housing!! Tends to be an archieve of old Bendix parts!

duey



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BobinOH

04-01-2005 07:13:26




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 Re: Never end clutch saga in reply to premie-farmer, 04-01-2005 05:57:41  
You may want to check the condition of the flywheel and have a machine shop plane it nice and flat. It will remove any glaze or high spots and doesn't cost much for this service. The new surface will allow the disc better break in and should last longer too.



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