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premie-farmer

04-07-2005 11:49:29




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Worked yesterday on the No. 7 McCormick Deering sickle mower restore. Bolts rusted youd know. Shot of WD40 wait a few minutes little nudge with breaker bar and "snap" they broke free was able to get all the bolts out of the blade guards and the knife bar out without breaking or stripping a single nut or bolt. Betcha I couldn't do that with bolts and nuts made nowadays! PS I'm open to suggestions on how to get the rusted head of the pitman arm off the knife bar?

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duey

04-07-2005 14:08:23




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 Old Machinery in reply to premie-farmer, 04-07-2005 11:49:29  
I have pulled some old Minnesota brand machinery apart... most things do come apart. I always figured they had dipped the bolts and hardware in the old-fashioned lead-based paints as they assembled things. While not designed for human consumption, the lead based paints seemed to hold up very well.

I don't think Henry had the Ford tractor hardware wet-assembled, though.

duey



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Dan

04-07-2005 12:45:24




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 Re: In praise of old bolts OT sort of in reply to premie-farmer, 04-07-2005 11:49:29  
I too have been really amazed at the strength of the old 50+ year old rusted bolts and nuts on my Project Rustbucket. The tractor has been sitting outside in the elements for decades, every nut and bolt is rusted severely - most partially corroded, and I have only broken two small bolts. The larger ones put in high stress areas have all come off with some persuading from Kroil, a plumbers torch, and a breaker bar. I have been replacing almost every bolt I take off with grade 8 hardware, but save most of the bolts and nuts (after soaking in WD-40) for emegency applications later on because they are so tough.

Dan

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Coldiron

04-07-2005 12:15:09




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 Re: In praise of old bolts OT sort of in reply to premie-farmer, 04-07-2005 11:49:29  
When all else fails I picked up a trick years ago that a young guy taught me. Heat your metal to just before it turns red hot, run a good coating of beeswax around all of the joints and go to lunch or coffee break. When you come back, give it a pull. I have seen it work on rusty connections that would have had to been cut off because nothing else worked. It has saved me more times than I can remember and hope it will work for you if all else fails. You are right on about the stuff we get from across the water.

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Coldiron

04-07-2005 12:10:30




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 Re: In praise of old bolts OT sort of in reply to premie-farmer, 04-07-2005 11:49:29  
When all else fails I picked up a trick years ago that a young guy taught me. Heat your metal to just before it turns red hot, run a good coating of beeswax around all of the joints and go to lunch or coffee break. I have seen it work on bolts and nuts that would have had to been cut off because nothing else worked. It has saved me more times than I can remember and hope it will work for you if all else fails.

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John IL

04-07-2005 11:56:53




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 Re: In praise of old bolts OT sort of in reply to premie-farmer, 04-07-2005 11:49:29  
I"m glad to hear that you had such success removing this old hardware, but I"m a little suprised that it was that easy. I"ve found that most of the original hardware on my "51 8N has been much softer that today"s equivelent hardware. Usually, I end up breaking or mangling the old soft bolts and replacing them with modern grade 8 hardware. Maybe it"s just me???

John



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