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6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 11:17:18

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I'm thinking of changing my 8N back to 6volt system and I have alot 6 Volt parts avalible but would rather have one that sombody took off of their tractor so it would be complete or close to it.
If anybody has this I would be interested in it.
My tractor is a 1948 8N I don't care what year it comes off of as long as it has the same parts mine would have had. Thanks

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Fessman

04-08-2005 19:39:34

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 11:17:18

Rough,

Way to go!!! If I had all the old parts from the previous owner, I would have changed it back. I didn't so I had to move on. I now have it running great on 12 volts, but it doesn't look right. I did everything I could, paint the alternator, clean up the wires..... It looks ok, but not original.

Fessman

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 20:00:08

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Fessman, 04-08-2005 19:39:34

Well I'll be glad to pass on any extra parts I get
and it would be nice to have sombody else to take some of the heat from the non 6 volter's. And I agree IT JUST DON"T LOOK RIGHT!!

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 19:59:05

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Fessman, 04-08-2005 19:39:34

Well I'll be glad to pass on any extra parts I get
and it would be nice to have sombody else to take some of the heat from the non 6 volter's.

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HOOKER

04-08-2005 17:36:25

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you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 11:17:18

well,,,,
ya gonna buy a new coil?????
generator????
brackets?????
bulbs???
$$$$$
jake

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 17:55:15

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to HOOKER, 04-08-2005 17:36:25

Well what can say, after you got her tuned up I've run out of things to do.I'm pretty sure I can getter done for not very much $$$ and my coil and lights are 6 volt.

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HOOKER

04-08-2005 18:11:15

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 17:55:15

buy another oneand start in on it,, i know you have a good supply of parts readily avail..
ask yer buddy about that frame with front end and no motor i made him the offer on and i'll be glad to take it off his hands!!!!!
jake

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 18:22:04

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to HOOKER, 04-08-2005 18:11:15

I was going to start on the 9 but randy is part owner in it and he needs to brush hog with it since your fixin up the 30 so I sold out to him on it.But I did bid on another 9 and backed out. it whent for $805.00 My bid was $775.00. I'll find out about that frame and front end for ya.

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HOOKER

04-08-2005 19:27:39

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 18:22:04

was the ""NEW YORK CITY GIRL" hott
i assumed it was gonna be pink with eyelashes on the headlights
i'm glad ya didn't get it painted that way then let randy have it
he'd getta lotta funny looks i betcha!!!!
jake

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 19:34:19

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to HOOKER, 04-08-2005 19:27:39

They wouldn't be to suprised. They already call him Pretty Boy at work because he dresses like a Gigalo and never gets dirty.She was a little hot but she knows I'll find another.We never was supposed to keep it when we bought it. We were going to re sale it. But Randy and I own half of so much stuff one of us end up keeping most of it anyway.

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HOOKER

04-08-2005 19:40:53

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 19:34:19

he said the other day that the throbbing almost went away,, until he shut a ladder on it again
oouucchh
jake

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 19:45:23

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Re: you gotta be _hitting me???? in reply to HOOKER, 04-08-2005 19:40:53

He's been milking that thing all week.

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Dell (WA)

04-08-2005 15:46:40

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 11:17:18

Roughstock..... ....what are you thinking????

Unless you are creating a trailer queen for jurried concours competition, leave it 12v.

There is NO PARTS advantage to retro-grade refitting yer current 12v conversion. I can't advise you why it was originally converted to 12v but I can sure an' tell you yer opening up a can of worms to back-convert.

And even iff'n you think yer having problems with yer 12v conversion and that by changing back to 6v you'll gitt ridd of the problem, THINK AGAIN!!!! You'll STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS ONLY WORSE.

DON'T DO-ITT!!!..... ..respectfully, Dell a 12v advocate for the right reason.

That said, I haven't found the right reason for my eazy starting 6v 8N, and I know how to do it right, the FIRST TIME. Infact, I know 8-ways to do it and they all work.

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dbwillia

04-09-2005 10:30:49

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Dell (WA), 04-08-2005 15:46:40

Dell, I am still curious to know the eight different ways of converting to twelve volts. As often as you mention it, I think you should share!

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Dell (WA)

04-09-2005 11:11:11

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to dbwillia, 04-09-2005 10:30:49

dbwillia..... ....sorry, I won't share my 8-ways to convert to 12v in open forum. There are TOO MANY electrically challenged tractor neubies that don't understand electricity that read this great N-Board. Iff'n yer a qualified electrical tech, then I'll be happy to share by private e-mail..... ..respectfully, Dell, 12v advocate for the right reason and 40yrs Electrical Engr

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Tom Evans

04-08-2005 17:21:50

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Dell (WA), 04-08-2005 15:46:40

I changed on back for the neighbor once - he did not like the looks of the cobbled up conversion, and neither did I. Never has had a problem with starting it, and it sure does look better. And by the way Dell, some of us do know how to do it right.

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Dell (WA)

04-08-2005 23:19:16

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Tom Evans, 04-08-2005 17:21:50

Tom..... ..good for you knowing how to convert to 12v. So many tractor neubies are electrically challenged and thats is virtually all we hear on this great N-Board. Why doesn't my 12v conversion work? 'cuz ol'BillyBob down at the local spittin-n-whittlin' waterin'hole sez "its tha' thang too doo; yep, thang ta doo" as he takes 'nutter swig o'barley-pops..... ....respectfully, Dell, a 12v advocate that knows 8-ways to do it right the 1st-time

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J.S. PA

04-09-2005 17:01:04

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Dell (WA), 04-08-2005 23:19:16

How do we know you can do "it right the 1st-time"???, cause if ol'BillyBob down at the local spittin-n-whittlin' waterin'hole ain't right and you talk just like him than how could your info be any better???
LOL

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Tom Evans

04-08-2005 17:21:00

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Dell (WA), 04-08-2005 15:46:40

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 16:41:56

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Dell (WA), 04-08-2005 15:46:40

Dell I know I am opening a can of worms but hopefully it will all work out. No I dont have one single problem with the 12 volt system but I just like the way it looks when its all original and running good.Thanks for trying to save me from myself though I appreciate the input.

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Jimmyjack

04-08-2005 14:44:19

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 11:17:18

Dont even think about it, Jeb said it all. My tractors start year around and it gets minus 25.

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Jeb2N

04-08-2005 15:17:27

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Jimmyjack, 04-08-2005 14:44:19

My 2N had been converted to 12V sometime in the past. Even though it was running when I took over ownership, i hated the alternator. My biggest beef with it was the fact that someone (possibly my grandfather whom i loved dearly), rigged up a terrible tensioner bracket for the alternator and had to cut out a nice 8" long portion of the trim along the side of the hood to make room for everything. For that very reason, i despise alternator conversions on tractors to this day. That, and for the reason mentioned earlier. If it was designed to take certain parts, those are the parts I want on my tractor...no extra, none missing. "Clean, bright, tight"...and workin right! Never have cared much for "bandaid" fixes.

Jeb

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Jeb2N

04-08-2005 13:37:13

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Roughstock, 04-08-2005 11:17:18

I agree. I did the same thing with my 2N and couldn't be happier. I know exactly how to wire it up and how to easily trace out electrical problems without worrying about which of the 8 different correct ways the 12V version could have been done. Guess what? It starts like a dream!

As for parts, if you've got a good generator, bracket, you're more than halfway there. Then all you will need is the correct 6V regulator and coil and that's it!

Jeb, who beleives in 6V originality because that's what it was designed for.

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Roughstock

04-08-2005 15:07:40

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Re: 6 Volt conversion, Yes I said 6 Volt in reply to Jeb2N, 04-08-2005 13:37:13

Thanks for the info. Thats exacly how I am MR. ORIGINALITY. I belive if it came that way it should stay that way. I see people change auto's with $100.00 dollars worth of parts and a torch When the Auto makers have spent Millions desighning it.

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