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Robbman

04-20-2005 16:27:58




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Oh saged ones, help me again please. I replace a cheap car ignition switch with the original switch on my 8N. I put in a big ole push button start switch down by the gear shifter and wired it to the solenoid. The starter has a 4 pole solenoid on it. Positive juice from the battery to the small stud gets her to kick and run but the push button switch does nothing. Tried puttin' a jumper on the other stud on the solenoid but nothing doin for kickin' her over. What to do fella's. Give me some direction please. It is 12 volt system.

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Bob

04-20-2005 21:24:39




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 Re: convertin electrical parts to original ain't a in reply to Robbman, 04-20-2005 16:27:58  
The "N" starter solenoid is unique (compared to most more modern units, anyway), in that one side of it's magnetic coil is connected to the large post that is always "HOT" because that's where the battery cable is connected. Depressing the original starter button grounds the other side of the coil, causing the solenoid to "pull in".

Most contemporary solenoids (and apparently yours) have one side of the magnetic coil GROUNDED, and need the application of battery voltage to the little terminal labeled "S" to get them to pull in. On the typical modern solenoid, the other little terminal is labeled "I", and is used to bypass the ignition ballast resistor during starting, in the solenoid's original application.

The best advice is to get an original-type starter solenoid. (12 Volts, with cranking used in moderation, won't hurt the 6 Volt original type solenoid.)

While your at it, get the tranny top starter button working. Replace it, if necessary. The life you save may be your own, or perhaps the neighbor kids'.

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Jeb2N

04-20-2005 17:07:25




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 Re: convertin electrical parts to original ain't a in reply to Robbman, 04-20-2005 16:27:58  
Couple things that make a difference:

1) the wire from the battery generally goes to a BIG stud on the solenoid. Same holds true for the copper bar that goes from the solenoid to the starter motor itself.

2) The push button thumb starter switch should not have any power going to it....it actually serves to ground out the connection on the ground side of the solenoid.

So, you should have a big wire or battery cable going to a big stud on the solenoid, a copper bar going from the solenoid to the starter motor, a small wire going to a small terminal on the solenoid that comes from the ammeter/switch, and a small wire to a small terminal that goes to the push button switch. The push button switch allows power to go through the two small wires. When those wires have current flowing through them, they create an electromagnet inside the solenoid that flips a BIG switch connecting the two big lugs...ie, battery to starter. That's how the solenoid works. Hope this helps!

Jeb

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Robbman

04-20-2005 17:27:32




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 Re: convertin electrical parts to original ain't a in reply to Jeb2N, 04-20-2005 17:07:25  
Well it sounds like I need a new solenoid. When I put power on the one little stud and the push button is connected to the other little stud, nothing happens. I'm going to TSC and get a new one and go from there. Thanks guys.



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marcNY

04-20-2005 16:57:31




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 Re: convertin electrical parts to original ain't a in reply to Robbman, 04-20-2005 16:27:58  
I just went through that so I could use my push safety thumb switch
I bought a new solenoid at TSC with the ground lug on the back side. thats where the thumb switch gets connected. It`s a 6v selonoid , but works ok 12v. Marc



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