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Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend.........................

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Almost Former

04-03-2001 05:18:40

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I was brushhogging and paying more attention to a low-lying limb than to where I was heading. The right front wheel went up the trunk of a tree about three feet before I knew what was happening. By sheer dumb luck and instinct, I turned the wheel sharply to the left, and it slid off the tree. Geesh, it was frightening. Nothing like a near-death experience to enforce one's respect for machinery!

N8NO

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Jim WI

04-05-2001 11:18:37

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

For your next trick you can try snagging a finish mower on a fence post.

I did that one the third time I used the mower -- I'm still kind of embarrassed by it (four years later I'm still gonna buy replacements for the bent parts).

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Brian

04-03-2001 19:46:30

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

When I was 5 or 6, my Dad got the NAA out for the spring. It had been sitting quite a while and the clutch was stuck. He got the brush hog on the back and tied the clutch pedal down. Put it in high gear and caught it to start it. He then aimed directly for a large tree. The bumper caught squarely and up he went. The rears clawed at the ground for a bit as the tractor and him bounced quite a bit. Then it broke loose the tractor stopped and he untied the clutch and slipped it a bit then backed down off of the tree. He then went and mowed! My Mom was screaming the whole time and was in a fit. I was scared from her screaming and watching my father get bounced around on this raging bull. I was instilled with great respect for things mechanical as a result of this. I WOULD NEVER EVER DO THIS! The next time it stuck, I was about 12 and I convinced him that we should fix it. WE did. So at 12 years of age I got my first experience at splitting a tractor. Believe it not My Mom said he had done this on a regular basis every spring for a couple of years prior. I am amazed that for someone as intelligent as he was that he would have done something so dangerous so many times. Who knows maybe he had a death wish or something. BTW he was in his mid 50's when this happened.

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Ryan - IN

04-03-2001 10:55:22

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

I was driving a Ford 9000 a couple years ago with 15' batwing Woods. . .ran over a 14" round tree that was laying in the field edge. Nearly threw me off the tractor. Didn't help I was watching the back of the tractor as much as the front. . .grass had gone to seed and was 2' tall -hid the tree very well!

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Steveo

04-03-2001 10:00:29

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

Best thing you could have going for you is an "over-running coupler" on your PTO, and secondly, be ready to hit the clutch and brakes ASAP! Without the ORC, you could've been driven right up that tree, with or without your foot on the pedals! Whew, that was close. ORC's run about $60, new people aren't available yet, cost of sorrow over lost loved ones is imeasurable. Glad you pulled out of it!

Steveo

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Rob

04-03-2001 10:44:38

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Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Steveo, 04-03-2001 10:00:29

Steveo what is a "over-running coupler" and do you think I mite have one on my 1963 4000 if not where can I get one

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Larry 8N75381

04-03-2001 18:40:21

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Re: Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Rob, 04-03-2001 10:44:38

Rob,

Your 4000 SHOULD have a two stage clutch. That means you can disconnect the drive wheels from the engine/PTO - first stage - and then the PTO from the engine. Thus, you do not need an ORC because you can disconnect the PTO from the rear wheels with the clutch. Something an N cannot do.

BECAUSE of the design of the N series, the PTO shaft and differential are solidly coupled together thru the input gears of the transmission. The ONLY clutch in the chain is a "dog" clutch that is in or out - CANNOT be slipped. When it is disconnected, you have NO lift because the hydraulic pump is also driven by the PTO shaft, as well as the PTO its' self, of course. So in order to run a "hog" you MUST have the dog clutch engaged, therefore the PTO can supply power to the rear wheels, EVEN though the engine clutch is disengaged. A '5 foot "hog" has a LOT of weight swinging around which stores a LOT of energy/power. With the ORC (a one way power device), the PTO can supply power to the "hog" BUT the "hog" CANNOT supply power to the PTO.

Clear?!?

Regards,
Larry

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Rob

04-03-2001 23:24:23

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Larry 8N75381, 04-03-2001 18:40:21

thanks

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John Maki

04-03-2001 12:03:01

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Re: Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Rob, 04-03-2001 10:44:38

Rob - scroll down a little, there are some posts about over running clutches below (ORC / Brush Hog). That should answer your questions.

John

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Novice 8N Owner

04-03-2001 10:27:05

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Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Steveo, 04-03-2001 10:00:29

Steveo,
Thanks, I do have an ORC. First accessory I bought thanks to the posters on this board. I'm sure that it helped save by rear end in this instance.

Take care.
N8NO

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Dave in Mo

04-03-2001 09:32:21

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

I'd like to know how that happened. I'm sure you were smart enough to use a top link on the 'hog---right, and not some chain?

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Novice 8N Owner

04-03-2001 10:04:56

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Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Dave in Mo, 04-03-2001 09:32:21

I don't understand the question..... .. You may be giving me too much credit on the "smarts" issue.
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N8NO

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Dave in Mo

04-03-2001 13:15:26

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Re: Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 10:04:56

Well, what I meant was that the (3) point hitch should have rigid members at all points. A lot of people don't use the top link on a brushhog because it allows the deck to follow the contour of the ground better. Don't do it. If you snag the deck on anything the tractor will rear up without the top link to push the front down, same reaction as a plow would.

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SAFETY DEVICE IDEA for ZANE (ED)

04-03-2001 06:57:07

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

Got another one of those "classic tractor" books this weekend. Prominantly featured was a fordson (I believe it was a 1923) which had a clever safety feature on it. Now, most of us are aware that the three point hitch was developed to keep a tractor from flipping backward on itself if an implement caught on something. Well, this fordson had a gravity operated switch that cut power to the coil if the front of the tractor rose to an abrupt angle. Seems like this might be handy for such an event as was described in the message above. What about it ZANE?

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Rainman

04-03-2001 06:55:41

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

Glad to hear you're OK. Last fall I ran up a huge bolder with the right front tire while brush hogging in high weeds (had absolutely no idea it was there). I know exactly how you are feeling. These incidents hopefully make us better, safer operators of a potentially very dangerous tool.

Mark Rainforth

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PAUL8N

04-03-2001 06:37:23

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

Might be a good reason to have "ROPS". I am still looking at making my own. Glad to hear you are ok. Paul

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ROPS on an N????????????/Old George

04-03-2001 06:52:44

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Re: Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to PAUL8N, 04-03-2001 06:37:23

Gosh, next thing I know I'll need hand rails on my tub and toilet!:-)

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It's good to here from you

04-03-2001 05:49:26

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Re: Ran Up My 1st Tree This Weekend......................... in reply to Almost Former Novice 8N Owner, 04-03-2001 05:18:40

Safety First.

this could have turned out MUCH worse

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