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souNdguy

05-17-2005 04:44:53




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I know we see messages here and there about the low quality of under the tank fuel valves. I had thought that this was just due to these being 'cheap aftermarket parts' for old tractors.

Well, yesterday i had to replace the fuel tap on my NH 7610s ( diesel.. ) Got a genuine CNH part... it leaked like a seive. I had to add a oring to it that it wasn't designed for, plus lots of thread sealant. I would have figured a new production OEM part should have functioned better than that.. oh well...

Soundguy

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Dan

05-17-2005 11:01:45




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to souNdguy, 05-17-2005 04:44:53  
I have replaced two on my Dad's 2000 tractor. I cannot believe these things are so cheaply made and do not last more than say a season or so - AND THEY ARE AROUND $50 A POP!

Something is VERY wrong with this picture!

Dan



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FLAcharlie

05-17-2005 05:10:56




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to souNdguy, 05-17-2005 04:44:53  
what to use for fuel line thread sealant, not the teflon tape you use for water pipe, right ?



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Joe(NYC)

05-18-2005 19:44:15




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to FLAcharlie, 05-17-2005 05:10:56  
I have always used the white teflon tape on the gasoline line connecting at the carburator of my vehicles for many years. Never a problem.



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OH Boy

05-17-2005 07:32:33




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to FLAcharlie, 05-17-2005 05:10:56  
When I did mine I used the yellow teflon tape that is designated for natural gas/propane lines, thinking it might be more resistant to hydrocarbons than the white tape. Hasn't leaked yet!



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souNdguy

05-17-2005 08:07:47




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to OH Boy, 05-17-2005 07:32:33  
I'm pretty sure the teflon is going to be quite chemical resistant.. i was trying to avoid using it.. but pretty much had no choice... diesel was pouring out and I was running out of rags and buckets!

It's not leaking now.. and I'm happy..

Soundguy



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FLAcharlie

05-17-2005 10:53:42




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to souNdguy, 05-17-2005 08:07:47  
I did find some warnings about using Teflon tape for fuel lines, mostly from the standpoint that pieces of the tape can end up downstream causing problems, for example in an injector (not a concern here really I guess), this one is typical though it is not referring to Ford tractors:

"Fittings with pipe threads should always be installed with an aviation-grade, pliable (non-hardening) thread sealant (like Fuel Lube or Tightseal) on the pipe threads only. NEVER use Teflon tape-type products, as bits of tape often get into the system during installation or servicing and can cause blockages or mechanical failures. SkyStar sent out approximately 25 header tanks on which our vendor used Teflon tape on the fitting inserts. If you have one of these tanks and it is not leaking, it is best to leave it alone. If the fittings are ever rotated for any reason, the system should be drained, the fittings removed, and all traces of Teflon tape cleaned out (an old toothbrush works well to clean out the threads in the tank). Reassemble the fittings using the proper sealant, and check your filter and/or gascolator for contaminants. Also, avoid over-tightening the pipe fittings on the header tank, as this may damage the tank material itself."

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Russ SoCal

05-17-2005 08:18:56




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 NH aux fuel gauge in reply to souNdguy, 05-17-2005 08:07:47  
Here they went and carefully engineered an aux fuel level indicator and you went and defeated it. If it ain't leakin, IT'S EMPTY!
R



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souNdguy

05-17-2005 09:54:16




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 Re: NH aux fuel gauge in reply to Russ SoCal, 05-17-2005 08:18:56  
Yep.. that would be a tank empty indicator right? If no drips, then kank is empty.. then add fuel (grin)

Soundguy



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OH Boy

05-17-2005 10:34:31




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 Re: NH aux fuel gauge in reply to souNdguy, 05-17-2005 09:54:16  
I think my fuel mileage doubled after I fixed the fuel leak at the sediment bowl! I figure it'll pay for itself in about 20 hours of operation!



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souNdguy

05-17-2005 05:17:37




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 Re: Cheap fuel valves in reply to FLAcharlie, 05-17-2005 05:10:56  
Normally I'd say no, but in this case i did. I left the first few threads open, and wrapped down from there. The dealer had done a repair on it before, and that is what they used. There is a screen filter on top of the tap that looks fine enough to stop any stray threads from coming off, and there are 2 water traps down from there, and finally a 5 micron filter before the injection pump that should catch anything else.

I tried the paste type thread sealer... didn't work worth a flip. NH must make the threads int he tank and fuel valve with so much clearance for some reason I'm not aware of....

Soundguy

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