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Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying an

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Darren.. too ma

05-23-2005 14:20:19




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Hello All,

Sorry for my series of randmom posts today. After spending most of the day researching the 8N and capabilities, I am really starting to question If I am making a mistake by buying this tractor I have already verbally agreed to:

1951 8N with 7' Ford rear blade and 5' bush hog $2400. It's in good shape other than needing some right brake work. I want to get a backhoe and a front loader bucket for it but they are not present now.

I am a 33 year old guy and I have 2.25 acres in the country and hope to get 5 more at some point. I will be working some ground to add an addition to the house (not digging a basement though) and putting a bunch of water, propane and electric lines underground. I won't use the N to mow, I have a Dixie Chopper for that. What I want a tractor to do is clear snow, scoop and move dirt, rocks, and mulch faster and easier than I can with a wheelbarrow and shovel, run a 3pt tree sprayer and maybe a 3pt cement mixer, put in a couple hundred feet of new rock driveway, and remove the old driveway on the other side of the house, and last but not least, dig a bunch of 5 foot deep trenches. I am OK with the digging not being as fast as a full fledged backhoe, but after some discussions with various people and reading a bit, I am starting to think I may be better off getting something larger and newer if I want to be able to scoop and dig much.

Like one guy told me, the N will push dry loose dirt around and move much nicely, but when it comes to compacted dirt, or larger amounts of dirt, he thought I would be better off with a wheelbarrow and shovel. On the flip side, I see people talking about digging holes and ponds and such with an N. What's the reality? Am I making a mistake? I hate renting stuff, and would rather own it if possible, but I don't have $10,000 for a big tractor.

Thanks,

Darren McLaughlin

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Dave H (NY)

05-24-2005 03:41:46




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 Re: Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying in reply to Darren.. too many posts t, 05-23-2005 14:20:19  
Darren, I have an 8n with a loader and backhoe on it, it does what I ask it to do and have not had any trouble, last year I dug and installed an inground pool with my N it does take longer but it did the job. It would be nicer to have the loader on a hundred series but I get by fine.



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Darren McLaughlin

05-23-2005 15:30:06




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 Re: Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying in reply to Darren.. too many posts t, 05-23-2005 14:20:19  
Hi all,

Thanks to all you guys for answering my questions about the backhoes and end loaders for the 8N. Based on your feedback and answers, coupled with several other knowledgeable 8Ners that I talked to on the phone (Dwight Emstrom, Mark Favero, and Richard Wyle at ashlandsmallengine.com) I have decided to pass on getting an 8N. It just looks to me like I am going to be better off in the long haul getting something with power steering, more HP and hydraulic capacity, and particularly something with a backhoe and front end loader already installed. My uncle still has my grandpa's 2N sitting in the weeds, and maybe someday I'll get ahold of it and be back here for some more advice, but I just want to say thank you for helping me out with these questions. I have found that it is hard to find many unfriendly and unhelpful people that own classic iron!

Thanks for you help!

Darren McLaughlin

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Russ SoCal

05-23-2005 14:58:54




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 Re: Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying in reply to Darren.. too many posts t, 05-23-2005 14:20:19  
Darren,
For the jobs you describe, I believe an 800 series tractor would be better suited. It's not a whole lot more than the 8N, but has a little more power and tolerates a backhoe and loader better. You can ruin any machine by asking it to work beyond it's capabilities. The 800's can do the jobs you want without thinking maybe the wheelbarrow IS a good idea.
If you can do most of your own maintenance, there is a "ready to work" one out there in the $4000 to $5000 range, loader and backhoe included.
Russ

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Russ SoCal

05-23-2005 15:10:08




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 But then again..... in reply to Russ SoCal, 05-23-2005 14:58:54  
you could get the N for the grading and other jobs. Then use the money saved on the price difference to contract the bigger ones. That said, it sounds like you want one of them TRACTORS with a loader and backhoe and you'll FIND jobs for it later. In that case, at least do some homework on the 800 (or even 600) series. Sounds like you're willing to do the research to get the right tool. Lot of people skip that step.
Russ

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souNdguy

05-23-2005 14:56:37




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 Re: Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying in reply to Darren.. too many posts t, 05-23-2005 14:20:19  
Even a small 3pt backhoe is going to be expensive. look in northern tools for an idea of price.. probably in the 4000$ range.

An N with a fel is generally not as useable as a newer tractor with fel. no power steering.. 2wd.. non live pto and non live hyds.. though a front stinger pump can power the loader / backhoe hyds nicely.

Soundguy



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Marty 2N IL

05-23-2005 14:29:37




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 Re: Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying in reply to Darren.. too many posts t, 05-23-2005 14:20:19  
You will love the 8n tractor and proably be as hooked as we all are, however the price you will pay for a backhoe and loader is another thing. My 2N is The best little mowing tractor on the place and grades fine it would be under powered with a backhoe. Marty



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Tim...Ok

05-23-2005 14:52:51




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 Re: Reality Check: AM I making a mistake by buying in reply to Marty 2N IL, 05-23-2005 14:29:37  
For running a sprayer,cement mixer,post hole digger,box blade etc..they are a great tool to own.. I would say get the 8N for all those round the place chores,then rent or hire out for one or two days for your ditching needs..They are not a great loader tractor and can"t comment on the backhoe,but I would think the same goes there also..

Tim



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