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40 9N too much play between front support and cent

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Paw, Jr.

06-18-2005 06:45:18




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Rebuilding Dad's 1940 9N. There is approx 1" extra space between the front support and center axle. IT Shop Manual doesn't show any spacers and I didn't remove any spacers BUT 1" sure looks like toooo much wobble room. Any comments?




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Leroy

06-19-2005 05:37:09




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 Re: 40 9N too much play between front support and in reply to Paw, Jr., 06-18-2005 06:45:18  
If you put the spacers in then you are limited to the wheel track that the spacers willow you to hook up the radious rods. that space is designed to be there because when you move the wheels either in or out then it moves the center part of the axle either foward or backward to fit the radious rod length as the radious rod fastenes to the outside end of the axles not the center section as the 8N does and the *n was designed the way it was is because of people doing what you are wanting to do by puting in spacers ant then not being able to change there wheel tread of if they get it done end up breaking something, leave them out before you break something and the owners manual does address this

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Jeb2N

06-18-2005 06:57:13




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 Re: 40 9N too much play between front support and in reply to Paw, Jr., 06-18-2005 06:45:18  
That's normal. You have to remember the motion of the axle....it has to pivot around the center of the king pin. Now look at the side of the tractor and notice the radius rods that hold the front axle on each side. They ALSO pivot back by the foot pegs. If you drew a circle from the ball joint at the foot peg, you'd notice that as the front axle pivots up or down, the radius rods would pull it back towards the rear of the tractor. Only a fraction of an inch, but it would still move front to back. I think the rest is just wiggle room for errors in castings and holes not being drilled in quite the right spot and things like that. Think of it as float. But no, the 9N and 2N did not use any kingpin/front axle spacers like the 8N did.

Jeb

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6N's Short

06-18-2005 10:43:32




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 Re: 40 9N too much play between front support and in reply to Jeb2N, 06-18-2005 06:57:13  
Jeb, one of us finally made it into town today and your MO was obtained and mailed same time. Look for it early in the week and I will post pics as soon as the item is done. It's in the tank now.



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Rob

06-18-2005 06:54:24




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 Re: 40 9N too much play between front support and in reply to Paw, Jr., 06-18-2005 06:45:18  
If you go to spacers like the later models you"ll have much better steering and it won"t be so hard on the pin, bushing and axle support. Won"t bash the radiator or distributor either. 3/4" spacer in front and two or three thin bushings behind. I think they are 1/10"...maybe 1/8". The tractor dealer will have them for the later models and they fit your "40 model.
Steering wheel won"t try to rip your thumb off every time you hit a bump or dip. Nice.

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