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Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump

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528N

08-23-2005 06:52:42




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I read a posting the other day and it sounds a lot like a problem I have. I have not been able to use my three-point for anything other than towing since I rebuilt my pump. I haven't had a lot of time other than mowing, to work on it, but I am about to take a weeks vacation and would like to fix it. I also pulled my top cover off anf tried to manually move the linkage in and out. No pressure at all. I used 80-90 oil, is that too thick? It came highly recommended. Or, do I have a bigger issue?

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used car salesman

08-23-2005 09:29:45




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to 528N, 08-23-2005 06:52:42  
I just dropped my pump, pulled the top cover and adjusted the controls.

I would make sure you have Zanes jig. Make sure everything is spot on with the settings.

I was very meticulous with cleaning the insides with keorsene and brake cleaner (on sale for .50 cents per large spray can)

fresh gaskets and make sure your mating surfaces are clean.

if you have plugged up areas in the pump maybe it is due to floaters in the fluid.

I rebuilt my pump with the naa piston and o ring. this combination is better than viagra as my lift arms have been up for the last 2 days with 1" of drop with 500# on them.....think i should drop that implement.

I put in a new exhaust valve assembly in the pump before installing it again.

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Jim.UT

08-23-2005 10:38:25




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to used car salesman , 08-23-2005 09:29:45  
While it's a source of pride to have a lift that will hold 500# implement in the air for two days (mine will, too), it's just too dangerous. Please put the implement on the ground when you shut the tractor off.

Here's a story I heard on this board a while ago: Man is driving his tractor doing some work with a box blade. His son, daughter-in-law and grandsons pull into the driveway for a visit. Man shuts tractor off and goes in the house to visit.

After a few minutes of adult chit-chat, the grandsons get bored and go outside to have fun. Grandpa's tractor looks real fun so they start playing on it. One boy on the seat making engine noises, turning the wheel, fiddling with the knobs and levers. Sure enough he pushes the touch control just when his brother is under the box blade.

By the time the youngster can run in the house, get the adults attention, they run out and start the tractor back up and lift the blade, the boy is dead.

You cannot monitor that tractor with the 500# in the air 24/7 for two days. Why take the chance?

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souNdguy

08-23-2005 11:38:05




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to Jim.UT, 08-23-2005 10:38:25  
There is a safe way to do the leakdown test.

I've done it by lifting the implement then putting a piece of lumber under the drawbar a few inches down.. or by running a chain under it and up to a fixed support.. like a crane/boom pole.. engine lift.. sufficient barn support member.. etc.

That way you can measure hang time under load.. and limit the fall of the implement.

Soundguy



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souNdguy

08-23-2005 07:22:28




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to 528N, 08-23-2005 06:52:42  
In general a large consensu reccomends a 90w gl 1-3 type oil.. like NAPA and walmart have.. ( and even the new gearplus 80w90 gl-4 yellowmetalsafe )and TSC ( gl-3? ).. though.. many do use the 80w90 gl-5 oils.

For simple testing.. just about any oil would have worked.. and no.. the somewhat disputed 80w90gl-5 oil did not harm your lift.
Most likely.. your relief valve is poped open.. or the control valve is not letting oil to the pump. This assumes that the pto is spining.. and you don't see any obvious problems.. like cracked housing.. etc..

Also.. removal of the lift cover is not necescary to get at the control valve.. the dipstick side cover can be used for that. Does the control valve move smoothly?

Soundguy

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528N

08-23-2005 10:32:19




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to souNdguy, 08-23-2005 07:22:28  
Yes, the control valve does move smoothly and yes the PTO is running. I also thought about the Relief valve, but I replaced it when I rebuilt the pump. I guess you can always get a lemon! I have thoroughly inspected the housing for cracks, none to be found. The reason I pulled the top cover was to see if any fluid was coming up the tube. Not much, very little and no pressure.



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souNdguy

08-23-2005 11:17:39




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to 528N, 08-23-2005 10:32:19  
That's an odd one.. sounds like problems with the cam blocks / pump chambers.. not much else to go wrong.. unless the check valve is stuck open.. or the control valve is plugged / bad.

Soundguy



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528N

08-23-2005 13:55:56




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 Re: Rebuilt Hydraulic Pump in reply to souNdguy, 08-23-2005 11:17:39  
Thanks for your advice souNdguy



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