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Walt(l.a)

08-24-2005 13:05:21




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Painted 8n hood with n.h gray. used m.s for cleaning. gravity feed sprayer at 32# someone tell what i did wrong? Thanks.




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Denny (WI)

08-27-2005 04:56:53




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
Walt, Before you sand off the paint see if you can color sand the orange peel out. This is done all the time to fix imperfection in painting. Go to any auto parts store that sell paint and ask for color sanding grades of sand paper (ex 1500 grit) and try this with water and dish soap as a lube. then you can use rubbuing compound after wet sanding her. Den



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Paul in MD

08-25-2005 06:54:39




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
I had the same problem when I painted my 8N sheet metal about 3 years ago. I started over 3 times (resanding, etc.) and finally got it right by diluting the paint a lot more than the instructions on the can said to. I heard, but can't verify, that the instructions on this particular paint (and i can't remember what kind it was anymore) called for less dilution in order to meet some EPA standard. Bottom line was that the paint was too thick.

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Russ SoCal

08-24-2005 22:01:22




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 This might help in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
A reference from the Paint and Bodywork Forum archives.



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lonestarjeff

08-24-2005 20:43:44




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
Most of my 8N I just finished painting has a nice texture too. The last 3 pieces I painted look great.

That's when I discovered my gravity feed gun had a fine strainer pressed into the fitting between the cup & valve. It had just enough blockage to starve the tip of paint, no matter how thinned. Perfect for orange-peel texture.

Anyway, I pressed out the strainer & the paint went on nice & smooth.

Maybe someday I'll go back do a little sand & recoat, maybe.

Jeff

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ozark mike

08-24-2005 16:44:52




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
had a 47 ford coupe that i had painted comp. orange at a body shop, had that effect when i got it back..in blue letters i had the word starkist painted on the front fender...mike



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John (TR)

08-24-2005 16:02:33




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
Seems like another way to get orange peel is too fast of a reducer for the temp, not enough time for paint to flow. I'm only familiar with accrylic enamels but I remeber buying reducers based on expected ambient temp.



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Staffmope

08-24-2005 13:54:11




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
Higher humidity can also cause orange peel. Addition of a dryer to the paint can help.



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Dan

08-24-2005 13:51:15




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
Boy - am I getting to be a professional at how to apply paint with a texture to it :-)

Basically - the paint is being applied too thick, too close, too high a pressure, or the nozzle is clogged somewhat (all the above will produce orange peel and any combination). I can't be more specific because a lot depends on your sprayer and how thin you got the paint. You will need to thin the paint per specs, find a psi that works best with your particular spray gun, don't get closer than 12", and make sure your nozzles are squeeky clean by poking thin wire into the holes and spraying lots of straight paint thinner through it. Practice on a piece of plywood or whatever you have handy until you find the right combination. Most gravity feed systems like very low pressure I have discovered. I have two tractors with orange peel, but I found a nicely painted tractor with textured paint is still MUCH nicer than a rusty one!

Good luck,
Dan

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Rick H. Ga.

08-24-2005 13:19:15




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Walt(l.a), 08-24-2005 13:05:21  
It is hard to say but the pain/reducer ratio can cause this as well as low air pressure or mis-adjusted spray gun. If you had 32# at the compressor you may have had 25#'s or so at the gun, depending on the length and size of the hose.

If the paint is too thick or the pressure too low you may get some orange peel.

I've seen barnd new vehicles from the factory with some orange peel. HTH. Rick

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Rick H. Ga.

08-24-2005 13:29:10




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 Re: Orange peel in paint in reply to Rick H. Ga., 08-24-2005 13:19:15  
Sorry, I meant to say paint/reducer ratio not pain-reducer. However, by now I need some pain/reducer.

Rick



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