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What is in your grease gun?

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Rob

09-07-2005 15:44:49




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Friend wants to grease the 4 x 4. Started checking the internet for a map of lube points and saw the lube spec for the u-joints; EP with warnings to not use chassis lube. I don"t know what I got in my grease gun but I imagine it is one of those multi-purpose lithium greases black stuff or red farm grease. Went to TSC to look over what they sell and think I learned a thing or two. Not sure. Anyway, the cheap multi-purpose stuff ($.89) and the more expensive stuff ($1.29) says good for chassis, u-joints (my bush hog drive shaft) and everything else around farm, home, and industry; hence "multi-purpose." The "premium" stuff ($1.89) says the same thing but actually mentions Extreme Pressure. Premium also mentions it is good enough to be rated some disc and drum brake spec, of which I know nothing. So there you have it and I will stick with the premium grease at twice the price.
We will get the 4 x 4 greased up good and I know the drive shaft is getting what it needs for longest life.

Here is one outfit"s instructions for u-joint lube:

Maintenance

Among the most common causes of U-joint and slip failure is the lack of proper lubrication. Properly sized U-joints that are adequately lubricated at recommended intervals will normally meet or exceed operational requirements. Proper lubrication flushes of U-joints thus remove contaminants from the bearing caps.

U-Joint Lubrication

Proper cross and bearing lubrication requires purging the U-joint. The seals are designed to relieve contaminants and old lubricants when fresh grease is installed. This occurs when excess lubricant appears at the bearing caps seals. All bearing caps must be purged to insure full lubrication. To remedy a non-purged bearing cap, side to side movement of the shaft in all directions may loosen the seal. If the seal will not purge, the cap should be partially removed, then purged.

Slip Spline Lubrication [My bush hog drive shaft does not have slip spline lube.]

Proper slip spline lubrication will occur when the shaft is in its operating length. Lubricant should be installed at the center grease fitting until excess grease "purges" from beneath the seal tube.

Lubrication Specifications

Extreme pressure (EP) greases of high quality are recommended for universal joints and slip splines. Lithium soap base greases meeting National Lubricating Greases Institute Grade 1 (NGL1) and Grade 2 are preferred. Avoid using greases that tend to separate and cake. For applications with shaft speeds less than 500 rpm, a mineral oil SAE 140 to SAE 250 viscosity may be used.

Lubrication Intervals

U-joint lubrication must occur after the first 200 hours of service and three months thereafter. Severe applications require shorter intervals of lubrication service. The slip spline should be lubricated each time the U-joint is serviced.
Maintenance Inspections

Prior to proper lubrication a general shaft inspection should be done. All fasteners on the joints or mating flanges should be checked for tightness. U-joints and the slip spline should be checked for play, if any variance is noted the shaft should be overhauled and balanced. Any vibration or abnormal noise noticed during operation should be located and remedied at once.

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Dan

09-07-2005 20:05:26




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Rob, 09-07-2005 15:44:49  
I have three different color grease guns holding three different types of grease. One had a molly/lithium grease for bearings, one has general purpose lithium grease for most of my chassis zerts, then one has John Deere Cornhead grease for my steering box and other specialty applications.

Dan



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souNdguy

09-07-2005 19:01:36




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Rob, 09-07-2005 15:44:49  
I use the NH blue grease.. just cause I have a case of it in the barn left over.. doesn't go too fast.. maybee a tube or 3 a year...

Soundguy



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Charles (in GA)

09-07-2005 18:10:07




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Rob, 09-07-2005 15:44:49  
I use AMSOIL synthetic grease with Moly (the black stuff) It is an exteme pressure grease, the moly is excellent for almost all uses, I've packed wheel bearings with it for several years, before that I used a non synthetic moly grease. Never had a wheel bearing failure (my dad did have one but it was a nearly new, cheap Chinese bearing... never again, we had replaced one I had damaged), or any lube related failure for that matter. All told, close to a million miles spread between several different vehicles, one over 300,000 and two of them over 200,000 each.

Charles

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TennesseeMan

09-07-2005 18:02:05




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Rob, 09-07-2005 15:44:49  
General Purpose!



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Jay 2NSC

09-07-2005 17:29:12




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Rob, 09-07-2005 15:44:49  
so what about the white-lithium? It is the only thing available for the mini grease gun in my area. Is this multi-purpose (white-lithium) o.k. to use on my truck and tractor? Or should I go get me a real grease gun and get me some real tubes of the old wheel-bearing packing type grease? Thanks,Jay 2NSC



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Rob

09-07-2005 17:57:04




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Jay 2NSC, 09-07-2005 17:29:12  
I don"t know much more about it then what I posted. I would go for the real grease gun.
But, any grease is way better than no grease.



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duey

09-07-2005 17:08:12




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to Rob, 09-07-2005 15:44:49  
I usually buy grease that is water resistant for use in boat trailer wheel bearings.... but I don't use alot so the cost isn't much extra.

For what it's worth... duey



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Rob

09-07-2005 17:49:59




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 Re: What is in your grease gun? in reply to duey, 09-07-2005 17:08:12  
All of those greases talked about being highly water resistant. Everyone of them.
Trailer salesman told me one time to use a good grease and turn the wheels every few months. Bearings will be fine. Turn the wheels to spread the grease and move any moisture to a new spot. Makes good sense to me so I just go out and move the stuff up and back every few months.



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