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NAA woes continued

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ryanNva

09-09-2005 07:03:03




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Well, it ended up being something cloggin the line from the fuel tank, I took the line off the carb and blew air backwards through it and it started flowing beautifully and started right up. I noticed when i was looking at the choke that there is a spacer keeping it from going all the way back - opening the butterfly valve all the way. I let it run and took this spacer out and it shut off i am assuming it was getting too much air in the line. What is the purpose of this, is there a fix so the carb is opened up all the way.

2. How can i get the best fuel milage out of a tank?? I seem to be getting a lot of gas smelling exhaust coming out the back. Too rich of a fuel mixture??

3. I put 12v coil and it operates and sparks great.

4. Hydraulics seemed to work great. Changed engine oil and filter. Now just need to spend the $50 on the 5 gallon pail of tranny fluid.

5. I have an exhaust leak and it just so happens to be a hole on top of the exhaust manifold - What is a way to fix this?? JB weld or some other type of metal resin??

6. What are the torque specs for the starter bolts to the crank house/tranny housing and also for the oil pan bolts.

7. Not really a NAA woe but my stupid car has gotten a leak from the radiator - right on the top somewhere in a spot that i can't see without taking everything apart to get to it. Fun weekend in store for me- yay!!!

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Paul Schultz

09-09-2005 19:29:13




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:03:03  
You could try this product to seal the manifold. The por-15 products have a good reputation in the car restoration arena.

I have not personally tried this product however.

HTH,

Paul.



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souNdguy

09-09-2005 13:09:26




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:03:03  
Forget that 50$ NH 134d oil.. get 25$ TSC UTF.. or 17$ walmart UTF...

Soundguy



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ryanNva

09-09-2005 13:19:09




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to souNdguy, 09-09-2005 13:09:26  
is there a transmission filter or a hydraulic pump filter anywhere??



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Dell (WA)

09-09-2005 13:51:25




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 13:19:09  
Ryan..... ...NO transmission or hydraulic filters.

Recommend you consider the merits of your very own personal copy of the I&T FO-19 manual for the NAA Jubilee ($22, cheap) which will answer alotta yer questions. Readily available from sponsors of this great N-Board, most agricultural emporiums. Amazon.com, BordersBooks, WalMart, www.n-news.com also has great archive of implement manuals. Even yer Ford/New Holland (CNH) dealer sells it; isn't that AMAZING? Even my local (byte my tongue) John Deere dealer's parts counter has it for sale. Gittcha one and readitt..... ....respectfully, Dell

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Ramrod

09-09-2005 08:24:06




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:03:03  
Hey Ryan, if you opened up that fuel line by blowing back up into the tank, you just blew your gunk back into the fuel tank. You really need to drain that tank and pull the sediment bowl to see what is going on in there. It is not unusual for these old tractors to have rusty fuel tanks. If that is the case, your problem will come back and get worse until the rust perforates the tank and makes a leak. You can pull that tank and take it to a radiator shop for cleaning and sealing, and it'll never leak or rust again, at least on the inside. Clean it and paint the outside, and it'll last forever.

Ramrod

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Dell (WA)

09-09-2005 08:20:41




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:03:03  
Ryan..... ....ya asks allotta valid questions, so here goes..... .

5) hole in castiron exhaust manifold. NOT REPAIRABLE. Exhaust temperature +1200F, will burn enny pucky you try to seal the hole with. While you can weld castiron with nickle rod, you can NOT WELD used castiron exhaust manifolds 'cuz the permeable castiron grain is CONTAMINATED by exhaust gas carbon particles. You can "braze" castiron with brass rod and flux but braze melts at about 1000F. There is also castiron rod + flux but the contaminated manifold won't weld. Bottom line, castiron exhaust manifolds burn out or crack flanges, NEW castiron manifold $150. (not cheap)

6) the torque for the 7" 5/16 starter bolts is 18ft/lbs. the torque for the 5/8" 5/16 oilpan bolts is 18ft/lbs
Would you suspect that the torque for ALL 5/16" bolts are the same? They are, iff'n they are all the same grade. Grade-8 5/16 is 25ft/lbs. Grade-2 is 15ft/lbs. Actually, the fine-thread is slightly higher than the coarse thread, but is relatively immaterial.

1) the choke is spring-loaded WIDE OPEN and is manually closed by long pull-rod for starting cold engine. It is blocked from going fully closed so you don't flood the engine while you try to start it.

2) As fer yer smellin' gasoline out yer exhaustpipe. Learn how to adjust yer carb. Much to the dismay of gov't environmental bureaucrats, ALL carbs must be adjusted to match the engine they're mounted on. Both Ford and Marvel-Schebler say to set BOTH the side-pointing idle-mix and the down-pointing main-mix to 1-turn. I set the down-pointing main-mix to 1-1/2 turn and LEAVIT!!!

I then adjust the side-pointing idlemix for maximum rpms, NOT SMOOTHEST running, MAX idle-rpms. Understand? Then adjust the behind the carb throttle screw for a SLOOOoooww 400rpms. (ennythang under 500rpms is good) I do that song and dance 3-times, adjusting for MAX IDLE. Remember the side-pointing idle-mix is BASSACKWARDS: out for lean, IN for ENRICH. My idle-mix usually ends up about 3/8 turn. Yours will be different..... ..... .HTH, Dell

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ryanNva

09-09-2005 11:37:35




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to Dell (WA), 09-09-2005 08:20:41  
"Remember the side-pointing idle-mix is BASSACKWARDS: out for lean, IN for ENRICH. My idle-mix usually ends up about 3/8 turn."
..... .... So, what you are saying, is that you want to start with it all the way out and turn it in however many turns u need, or start with it all the way in and turn it out however many turns.



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Dell (WA)

09-09-2005 13:40:14




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 11:37:35  
Ryan..... ....what part of 1-turn don't you understand? Both the side-pointing idlemix and the down-point mainjet are righty-tighty lefty-loosy. It should be intuitively obvious the ONLY WAY to count turns is backwards from tight. Who knows how many turns make loose? 1-turn is the STARTING POINT, not the final point. Understand? Each carburator/engine combination is uniquely different in flow-rate and mixture-rate, therefore my final adjusting points are NOT gonnna be yer final adjusting points. Understand?..... ....respectfully, Dell

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Jack Johnson

09-10-2005 02:12:18




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 Er...uh in reply to Dell (WA), 09-09-2005 13:40:14  
What part of answering the questions politely don't you understand?

Understand?...respectfully,Jack



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Dan

09-09-2005 12:08:22




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 11:37:35  
Both the idle and main fuel adjustment is made by screwing them all the way in, then unscrewing the correct number of turns.

HTH,
Dan



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GAJIM

09-09-2005 07:08:47




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:03:03  
Ryan: I was able to get a 5 gallon pail of 90 wt. GL1 (part # 65-205) from NAPA for less than $25.00. $50.00 for 5 gallons of GL1 is way too mucj $$$$$. GA Jim



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ryanNva

09-09-2005 07:11:49




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to GAJIM, 09-09-2005 07:08:47  
it was that 134a stuff from the CNH dealer.



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Rick H. Ga.

09-09-2005 07:57:47




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:11:49  
Hi Ryan,

I used the 134 hydraulic oil in the hydraulic sump and 90 wt gear oil in the rear-end and transmission of my Jubilee/NAA.

The worst that could happen is a migration of one to the other if the seals between the compartments leak (which I don't think would hurt anything). HTH. Rick



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GAJIM

09-09-2005 07:41:09




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to ryanNva, 09-09-2005 07:11:49  
I just realized you have an NAA rather than an N tractor. GA Jim



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Walt(LA)

09-09-2005 16:35:10




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 Re: NAA woes continued in reply to GAJIM, 09-09-2005 07:41:09  
Had bad manifold where manifold bolts to engine used marine epoxe filled and filed no leak so far



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