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Skidding logs with an N

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Ed in ON

09-18-2005 07:36:35




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I wanted to poll the collective wisdom and experience of those here on the best ways to skid logs with an N. These are typically dead fallen trees (or cut down dead standing trees) which I am hauling back for firewood.

To date, I have used an old sisel rope -- but it's getting shorter with each breakage. :-)

I am trying to decide between using a chain (probably about 20ft), or making up a towing cable with 1/4in aircraft cable (same length).

My thoughts are:

- cable would be lighter, easier to handle
- chain would be somewhat stronger, easier to attach to the log

How about dragging as opposed to lifting the leading end of the log?

Dragging could cause a hangup -- not too bad if you are going slow, have your foot at the ready on the clutch, and most importantly have attached to the tractor lower than the rear axle. Another strong deciding factor would be what each would do in the situation where it slipped off the log. Will either (or both) "whiplash"?

For lifting, I could attach the log to the drawbar with the chain/cable, and lift it off the ground a bit (again, keeping the drawbar below the level of the rear axle). I could keep the drawbar in position either with my Zane Thang, or could adjust the limiter chains to the desired minimum height, and lower the lift (guarantees that the lift won't accidently raise the drawbar to above the axle).

That's probably enough background...

Thoughts?

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Bill Drew

09-18-2005 20:38:42




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 Re: Skidding logs with an N in reply to Ed in ON, 09-18-2005 07:36:35  
Why don"t you just cut them into firewood length in the woods and load on a trailer? Would also save on your saw chain instead of cutting after the log has been dragged through the dirt.



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corvette8n

09-18-2005 17:53:41




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 Re: Skidding logs with an N in reply to Ed in ON, 09-18-2005 07:36:35  
I used a rear mounted scoop and a chain around the log hooked to my swinging drawbar. Slip the lip of the scoop under the log to keep it from snagging things.



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Harry/ NY

09-18-2005 17:48:31




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 Re: Skidding logs with an N in reply to Ed in ON, 09-18-2005 07:36:35  
Best way I found is to put two wraps of chain around the log back about three feet from end hooked up short (around log)put log about four feet from hitch hook chain to draw bar AND ONLY DRAWBAR lift drawbar a few inches so your pulling up some. NOW RUN WITH FOOT ON CLUTCH SO WHEN THE LOG CATCHES A ROOT AND IT WILL THE TRACTOR STOPS YOU DON"T YOU SHOVE CLUTCH DOWN TRACTOR GOES DOWN YOU ARE LAYING ON STEERING WHEEL no harm done. On the drawbar is better if you have a nice stright run I always had troubles getting around tight turns log hits tires bends hitch hits trees so on.

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David (NY)

09-18-2005 11:30:57




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 Re: Skidding logs with an N in reply to Ed in ON, 09-18-2005 07:36:35  
I use my Jubilee and skidding chains. The end of the chain with a slip hook goes around the log with the chain over the drawbar and hooked through a clevis (on the bracket for the swinging drawbar) and back onto itself with a grab hook. The hydraulics lift the drawbar and in turn raise the log or at least take most of the weight from it. It is unbelievable what you can move with this setup (learned it from my father). The caution (and it is a huge one) is that if you hit something, jerk the tractor or are generally not watching what you are doing you can flip the tractor over (do you have your will made?). Like Dell said, nothing goes to the top bracket.

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Pitch

09-18-2005 08:11:05




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 Re: Skidding logs with an N in reply to Ed in ON, 09-18-2005 07:36:35  
I have skidded a few logs with mine. I have the diffrential mounted aftermarket drawbar. I use a 1/2 inch cable thirty feet (approx) long. I use a short chain and an old car hood to get them from the cutting site to the skid trail. I chain them up and roll the head end onto the hood. The front curved part of the hood prevents hang ups. Tow them out to the trail and then switch to the cable with a slip noose. Just go slow and easy you"ll be okay.

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Dell (WA)

09-18-2005 08:09:39




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 Re: Skidding logs with an N in reply to Ed in ON, 09-18-2005 07:36:35  
Ed..... ...what ever you do, DON'T EVER.....NEVER....PULL ennythang from that handy-dandy 3-point top-link under yer butt-buckett. It will pull yer tractor over on top of you lickity-splitt. And we'll be offer'n condolances to yer survivors.

Pullin' loggs from the end of a 20 ft chain it HARD tractor work.

More better you chain yer log on topp of yer 11-hole drawbar and lift it a little and DRAG yer trimmed log. Don't worry about "position" control. Yes, the "ZANES THANG" is a good $80 attachment for 9N/2N's but in this application, really not necessary.

OR.....chain yer log to the insides of a reverse mounted scoop and lift it a little and DRAG yer trimed log.

OR.....iff'n yer really into loggin' get/build yourself a "LOGGING-ARCH". Which is a 2-wheeled trailer like up-side-down "U" that straddles and lifts one end the log to be dragged.

NOTE: all of these techiques are a "friction reducing" technique by draggin' only 1-end of the log on the ground instead of pulling the entire log on the ground and catching on stumps and rocks.

HTH..... ....Dell, the self-appointed SAFETY-preacher

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