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Trenching with a middle buster?

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ShowMEguy

09-20-2005 12:05:10




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I'm needing to do a some french drains around my house. I can buy a middle buster or a 1 btm plow for the price they want to rent me a trencher. Can a guy put in a trench with an implement like that? I have a 9N and cannot see renting something if I can buy and own a tool for the next time or a pal needs the same thing. Your input is much appreciated. ShowMeGuy.




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alg

09-21-2005 08:52:00




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:05:10  
Normally french drains are right up against the foundation.You won't be able to get that close with either a trencher or a middle buster.You might want to look at renting a small trachoe.



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Hobo,NC

09-20-2005 17:47:20




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:05:10  
A scoop pan comes to mine and it does not leave much shovel werk and ya git lots of seat time. Not sure how deep they will go but would think ya could werk it down to 12". I would cut the ditch out with a two bottom plow and haul the dirt and stock pile it with a scoop I kin see lots of seat time here. My uncle drained his pond (built 53 years ago) and I have been git'in the first 2 or 3" of good dirt off the bottom of it for the last 3 or 4 days and have built up a good stock pile of dirt with a scoop and filed in every hole around. I putt near rolled off the back of the N dump'in a load I though i had the trans in nuetral and let off the clutch to werk the hydraulics and it wuz in gear and almost dumpped me. I made a call to Zane and gonna fix this with A Zane live Thang set up.

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hvw

09-20-2005 15:40:22




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:05:10  
I've done exactly what you're talking about doing. My advice...Go get the trencher and save yourself a heap of work.



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R.M. In AL

09-20-2005 13:33:38




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:05:10  
I kinda agree with Mike.I would go get the trencher.The trouble is,when you make your first pass in clay it will loosen up and make lots of dirt,and before you can get deep enough and wide enough for a French drain you will be running on your dirt and its hard to get it very deep.I tried it in clay for a waterline and could only get about 8 inches.It was fun thinking about how I was going to do it,but disappointing when I tried it.Let us know how you did it and good luck...R.M. In AL.

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ZANE

09-20-2005 13:14:28




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:05:10  
A subsoiler would work better. Either way you will have to shovel out the loose dirt.

Zane



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rango

09-20-2005 13:37:07




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ZANE, 09-20-2005 13:14:28  
what is a middle buster?? Hate to sound iggerant but it sounds like a TV excercise thing for belly muscles.



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lonestarjeff

09-20-2005 19:25:15




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to rango, 09-20-2005 13:37:07  
A middle-buster is a large V-blade designed to go to moderate depth & push the dirt out both sides creating a furrow in the center. If you put 2 or 3 of these across on your implement frame they call it a ridger.

Jeff



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rango

09-21-2005 07:54:08




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to lonestarjeff, 09-20-2005 19:25:15  
ahhh ok, thanx. sounds like a middlebuster would work good for cleaning out my irrigation ditches. some of them are in pretty bad shape. Have not been able to find a ditch plow, I know there must be a thousand around but no one wants to part with them.



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Mike S

09-20-2005 12:19:40




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:05:10  
First question is how deep does this need to be? Second is how straight of a line? Third is what type of dirt? Decent or lots of rock and roots?
Fourth, have you ever pulled either one? I have pulled a middle buster and I had to practice a lot to do a straight line. Only went about 6inches deep. Either way you will still be doing some handwork. I would rent the trencher if I had to do it this weekend.

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ShowMEguy

09-20-2005 12:53:26




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to Mike S, 09-20-2005 12:19:40  
I'd like to have it around 12" deep or so. As far as how straight, it's not exactly extremely important. Soil type will be a mixture of topsoil and clay underneath. I don't think rock or roots will be a factor but the clay may. I'm not a full time live off the land farm guy so, yeah this will be my first time using this type of device. You say a middle buster will only get it 6" deep? Will a subsoiler n conjunction with this help to get deeper? I may end up renting, but always like to pursue options that let me buy things to add to my collection.. heheeh! :)
ShowMEguy

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Ed in ON

09-20-2005 14:41:52




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 Re: Trenching with a middle buster? in reply to ShowMEguy, 09-20-2005 12:53:26  
Well, if the new implement is part of the end-game, why not play it both ways. Explain to anyone else involved in the decision that you think the implement will do the job, and save money. Get the implement, have a go -- realize it won"t work -- and rent the trencher. You now are the proud owner of the new implement you were craving.

Remember, in the game of life, the one that dies with the most toys WINS!

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