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Clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle?

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Aaron

04-16-2001 22:04:27

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My clutch has stopped working meaning that it will not allow me to shift gears. It will not disengage. I realize that opening the housing will be a task but I want to know beforehand from someone who has done this if it is worth doing myself, or should I take the 8N to a professional shop? I appreciate any reply.
p.s. is my trouble shooting on track about the clutch needing replacement?

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Tredd

04-19-2001 08:35:01

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

I do most of my work on my 8N, but for this I would take it to the shop. Like some said, it might not be your clutch and ripping apart an 8N can be diffucult.

Tredd
SW PA

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Dave Smith

04-18-2001 04:17:48

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

Hi Aaron, Can you put the tranny in neutral and start it? If not it is probably the shift fork inside and it is in two gears. If you can put it in neutral and run it the clutch disk may be stuck to the flywheel. My 37 Ford Doodlebug had a stuck clutch when I got it. I ran it in neutral and warmed it up good. Then I shut it off and I jacked up the rear wheels. Then I chained it to my 5000 ford draw bar back to back. I jacked up the rear wheels on the doodle bug put it in gear and started it. With the engine running and the wheels spinning and the clutch pedal blocked down I knocked the jack out. Whan the wheels hit the ground and the doodlebug not able to go anywheres the running engine broke the clutch free.
Be careful, Think twice, Measure twice and cut once.
Dave Smith <*))><

PS. My Ford 1100 came new with a wood block to block the cluch in released position when not in use for a extended period

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ebay

04-17-2001 17:54:34

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

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Jimp CO

04-17-2001 13:45:42

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

Is it stuck in gear or is it that you can't get it in gear?
If it is in gear, you can pull start it and very slowly, run the front wheels or a wheel (be careful as the steering wheel will turn sharply) into a large tree or something equally solid. and maybe the jolt will loosen up the clutch. I would keep the clutch down during this exercise so you will know when and if it releases.Just be sure you don't hurt yourself. This is a favorite way of one of the board members to unstick a clutch.
Look up in the archives under stuck clutch. there were quite a few of these 3-4 months ago.
Good Luck.

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LucVan(On)

04-17-2001 08:29:28

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

Aaron: As the others have descibed the procedure to split the tractor is not difficult, yet, having done it myself (two times) unless you have the interest in this sort of work it can be very tedious. I did it as a project , it took me two months to complete it. I had to walk away from it for fear of breaking parts! You know.... frustration!!!

Have you checked the oil for metal shavings? The symptom you described (not able to shift) sounds like it could be stuck in two gears. I would suggest that you remove shifter plate and see if you can move, or , disengage the forks. See page 23 to 26 of your F0-4 manual. Best of luck!

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Al English

04-17-2001 08:01:15

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

Hi Aaron, Although the N is a small tractor it is heavy. If you decide to do this job yourself, know what you're going to do, and how you're going to do it, before you start. If it gets away from you there is a good chance of something being damaged and/or you getting hurt. In deciding whether to tackle the job be honest with yourself about your mechanical ability. And if you decide to do it, be careful. God luck...Al English

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Nogrimace

04-17-2001 04:21:16

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

Aaron
I don't know your mechanical background, but I replaced my clutch a few months ago on a 47 8N. The worst part is just taking the time to take the engine apart to split the case. It is easy work, just takes a few hours. I'm sure the dealer would charge you and arm and leg, but the call is yours. If you do tackle the job, make sure you have a manual, it helps unless you work on other vehicles, etc. Good luck. If you do it your self and run into a problem, just post your questions on this board and you will receive input. Like I mentioned, it is not hard to split the tractor, worst thing I found was the starter motor, and that is easy if you understand how it is built and what angle you have to move it to take it off. Check the archives, lots of people run into problems taking it off.

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IHank

04-16-2001 22:28:39

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Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to Aaron, 04-16-2001 22:04:27

Aaron- You'd probably best get the N to a professional tractor shop. There's a number of reasons for what you describe, and they all require splitting the tractor to get in and do whatever repairs are needed.

If it's been sitting in a closed up shed it could be the clutch disk is rusted/stuck to the flywheel and pressure plate. It could be the clutch release bearing is shot. It could be that a release finger on the pressure plate is broken. It could be the clutch linkage inside is broken. It could be that starter drive parts got into the clutch and messed things up. And so on and on...

All that is based on a premise that the external clutch linkage is in good shape. Look for the easy and obvious problems first.

Bottom line is unless you're super lucky and can break loose a stuck clutch disk (and I once was), you're gonna have to split the tractor. If you're not equipped and knowledgable about doing it, and it can be real dangerous, so best you cut a deal with a reputable local repair shop.

Good luck and I hope you don't need it, IHank

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TimK

04-17-2001 13:08:51

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Re: Re: clutch plate replacement; Is this easy enough to tackle? in reply to IHank, 04-16-2001 22:28:39

I agree. I would assume at first at least that absent a problem with the clutch linkage slipping, that it is a problem with the friction disk sticking to the flywheel. That can be avoided next time by blocking the clutch down when the tractor is not in use. Look in the archives of this Board and take a look at the various ideas for loosening up a stuck clutch. If that is the problem, and if you can un-stick it, you'll save yourself mucho $$$$$'s and time. My $.02

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