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SMA in NE

09-30-2005 20:51:18




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I have found a Ford 8n 6 cylinder Funk conversion. It is for sale. It has not run for several years but the engine is not stuck. Hood is fairly straight but the grill is missing, no headlights, no toolbox, one three point arm is missing. It does have the overdrive transmission, most of them were Sherman but I don't know if this one is. Does anyone have much experience with these tractors with the six cylinder? I know sometimes the drivetrain components were overstressed with the extra horsepower. What would something like this be worth, more or less than a standard 8n?

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KCM

10-01-2005 20:42:37




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to SMA in NE, 09-30-2005 20:51:18  
The 6-cylinders were usually used pretty hard and it not uncommon for the rear differential and housing to have been replaced sometime in the past. Since you cannot drive the tractor, be prepared for the possibility that the ring gear and pinion may need replacing. Transmissions usually are not a problem in the Funks. Also check to see if the rear wheel hubs are loose on the axles (goes for all 8N's). If so, the axle and hub may need replacing (around $200 and axle).

Exact reproduction grills, headlights, and toolboxes are available. New replacement lift arms are available too. The engine is the same as a late 1940's and early 1950's truck, so parts are available as well. The flathead was sold first with the channel iron frame and later the cast iron oil pan. Funk specific parts are impossible to find if they are missing, and two common missing parts are the original governor (8N governor with Funk pulley and mount) and carburetor "hat".

As far as value, hard to say. My guess is from $500 to a $1000 more than an equivalent stock 8N. On the other hand, I've talked to some people who wouldn't give as much for a Funk as a stock 8N. The overdrive probably adds $300 more. All depends on condition and how many $$$ it will take to restore or get operational.

Check out the link below. There is a good section on Funks, and also a page on overdrive transmissions.

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SMA in NE

10-02-2005 05:57:10




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to KCM, 10-01-2005 20:42:37  
This one has the channel iron frame. The carb is off now but he says he has the carb for the tractor. The seat is from a newer Ford but that is a minor issue. How difficult or expensive is it to do rear end work on these tractors?



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KCM

10-02-2005 09:00:25




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to SMA in NE, 10-02-2005 05:57:10  
If you have some mechanical inclination, you should be able to work on it yourself. Remember, they were designed to be worked on by the farmers, though on rare occasions a special tool is required. An I&T repair manual is also a necessity. Most parts are not that expensive. A hub and axle could run you $200 though. Used differentials are available and vary widely in price (pays to shop around). And parts are readily available. Best to go to online parts places and do some research on part prices if you are doing a cost analysis.

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Ken Crisman

10-01-2005 08:39:27




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to SMA in NE, 09-30-2005 20:51:18  
You didn't say the year or whether it's a flathead or OHV 6 cyl . I found a 1952 with the OHV 6 cyl a few years ago . I pd too much for it to begin with but its mine now . Got into way more problems & expenses than wanted . I have probably 4,000.00 in so far & it's still not completed . But it's a project I'll be proud of showing off when it's done . So, if I were you , I wouldn't give over $1,000.00 the way that one sits . But than again how badly do ya want it . Send me some pics to my email address & I'll give some helpful tips on things . Good luck .Ken

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lonestarjeff

10-01-2005 06:34:23




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to SMA in NE, 09-30-2005 20:51:18  
Need a few more details on the o/d tranny. Does the it have a shift lever or cable shifter? Where does the shift lever come out of the tractor? Is the lever on the left or right? What shape is the shift lever? Is o/d tranny itself contained inside the bell housing between the engine & main tranny or in it's own housing bolted between the main tranny & hydr. center section?

Jeff



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SMA in NE

10-01-2005 19:56:31




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to lonestarjeff, 10-01-2005 06:34:23  
This one has the shift lever on the left side in front of the clutch pedal. The six cylinder is a flat head. There is another Funk conversion 8n sitting about 100 feet away that I did not look at. The owner said this one was the better of the two. He had farmed with his father and they used both of these tractors with 3 bottom plows. He also has a 1950 8n in the shed that he said his father bought new. I may go take a closer look sometime this week.

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Scott-Sd

09-30-2005 22:00:05




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to SMA in NE, 09-30-2005 20:51:18  
I think they are worth about $2,000-$3,000 give or take unrestored, and about $10,000 fixed up. I would be more than glad to try to help with any questions.



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KCM

10-01-2005 20:13:30




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to Scott-Sd, 09-30-2005 22:00:05  
I would say the flathead version restored is worth around $5000 or $6000. The only ones I've seen bring $10,000 are the overhead valve and V8 versions.



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souNdguy

09-30-2005 20:56:15




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 Re: 8n Funk 6 cyl in reply to SMA in NE, 09-30-2005 20:51:18  
A non running funk is worth a bit more than a non-running stock N.. but not drastically more..

Soundguy



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