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Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid change

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Alvin Roberts (

10-29-2005 21:34:38




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I have a question that may sound pretty stupid...forgive me, I just don"t know too much about tractors yet. I am getting ready to put a radiator on my tractor and run it for the first time....I cranked it once before but shut it off right away because I had no radiator. Anyhow, took the cap off of the transmission cover and I don"t see any fluid. I have the FO-4 Shop Manual which says that the transmission, differential & hydraulic system capacity is 20 quarts. Here"s where my ignorance comes in...how do I go about changing it all and what do I use? You don"t just pour 20 quarts into the transmission do you? There"s also a small dipstick on the side of the tractor in the rear...when I check it, it"s full. I"m not real sure what that is. I guess I just need to know how to properly drain and service the hydraulic, transmission and differential fluids if someone could please help me out. Thanks in advance for the help!

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10-30-2005 03:47:31




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 Re: Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid ch in reply to Alvin Roberts (MS), 10-29-2005 21:34:38  
Alvin;
do not expect to see the hydraulic
fluid on the trans geers looking thru the fill plug.
George



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davidz

10-30-2005 03:37:07




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 Re: Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid ch in reply to Alvin Roberts (MS), 10-29-2005 21:34:38  
Alvin, do you know what type of tractor you have? If you have a 9n, or a 2n, or an 8n, then you have 3 drain plugs underneath and one filler plug. The fluid you use will all goes into one sump for the tranny, diffy, and hydraulic. These ford tractors were made up to 1952. If you have a later model than 1952, then you have 3 drain plugs, and 3 filler caps for 3 different sumps or compartments. Each sump is filled individually.

However since you mentioned the F-4 manual, then the assumption is you have an N series tractor. First, drain the fluid by taking off the 3 plugs, start with the one on the rear first and move towards the front as they drain. Then take off the lowest bolt of the inspection plate (use your F-4 manual for a picture of the plate). It takes a little less than 5 gallons of fluid to fill'er up, so once you get close to that point, you will notice the fluid will begin to come out of the inspection plate hole. Then it's time to plug'er up.

If you overfill, then you may have a problem with the fluid overspilling into the brakes via the rear axle (hence, reason for taking out the bolt from the inspeciton plate)

The all round season fluid recommended by Ford/New Holland is 134 gear fluid. However, if you live in a year round warm weather area, as I do, then 80-90 gear fluid will work fine.

AS a side note, if you find that the old fluid looks milky, yuky, and dirty, then try to clean inside before adding the new fluid. Find you a cheap garden sprayer and fill it up with solvent or kerosene or diesel and spray the stuff through the filler hole, moving it around as much as you can. (I normally take off the inspection plate and try to clean through there also.) Let it sit and drain for a while. Put in the new fluid and you are ready to go.

Good luck. Davidz

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old

10-29-2005 22:01:59




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 Re: Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid ch in reply to Alvin Roberts (MS), 10-29-2005 21:34:38  
Well if its a 9N, 2N, or 8N, then that dipstick tells you your ok in all 3. @ change it there 3 drain plugs and one fill plug which you found. Yep tranny rear end and hyds all use the same fluid. As far as what type I use trans drilc fluid in all my Ns but other say to use the ford 134



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gahorN

10-30-2005 07:13:04




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 Re: Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid ch in reply to old, 10-29-2005 22:01:59  
Your dipstick says it's already full. There are three drains for the transmisison, case, and rear end. Use 80/90 gear oil. I'm not a fan of washing the gears off with diesel, kero, etc. Gear oil is cheap, (possibly cheaper than kero or diesel which will wash off but not lubricate gears and bearings.) Completely change the gear oil, run it a day and change it again immediately after shut-down, if you think it needs cleaning. (Be sure to recycle the used oil by taking it back to where you bought the new oil.)

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Alvin Roberts (MS)

10-30-2005 08:39:59




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 Re: Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid ch in reply to gahorN, 10-30-2005 07:13:04  
Thanks a lot for the advice and information. It is an 8N tractor somewhere prior to 1950 because it has the front mount distributor. I cannot read the whole serial number so I don't know the exact year.



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10-30-2005 09:57:15




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 Re: Transmission, differential, hydraulic fluid ch in reply to Alvin Roberts (MS), 10-30-2005 08:39:59  
Well if it has a 4 speed and front mount it would have to be a 1948, 1949 and early 1950. Some time in 1950 they went to the side mount dist. That only get you in the ball park as far as year but your closer now.



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