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S C Tom

11-10-2005 16:51:14

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Having just moved to a 12 acre farm, I could no longer resist so I stopped and bought the 8N. The problems so far detected are (1) The touch control lever is broken off the friction plate which will not move. (2) The steering wheel (old style) has a bunch of play and is really tough to turn. (3) There is a small coolant leak in the water jacket behind the starter. I knew about the first two problems when I give the seller $1200. The third showed up when we saw a puddle on the trailer when we got home. The motor runs fine and the oil and coolant are both clean. I just got my operator's and shop manuals in the mail. Any suggestions would be welcome. Nice site & Thanks in advance.

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one acher

11-11-2005 09:14:59

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Re: Steep Learning Curve in reply to S C Tom, 11-10-2005 16:51:14

Just went through the "hard steering" on my '47 8/N. It was the bearings in the steering column, which was the last thing I checked. The steering sectors will wear some, leaving a lot of play, but the binding/hard steering is definitley the bearings. You have to remove the hood/gas tank, steering wheel, dashboard and sector arms, then remove the steering column. One bearing is at the bottom, the other just above the gearbox. Put in the bearings, reassemble and drive. Bearings ran $34 for the pair. It took me all day but the results were perfect. Get the FO-4 book just before you start. Makes life easier

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Dan

11-10-2005 17:01:24

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Re: Steep Learning Curve in reply to S C Tom, 11-10-2005 16:51:14

Wow Tom - I could write a book on each of your issues - so I'll just pick one, and the next guy can pick another.

The lever on the friction plate could be two thing - either the outside nut on the shaft that runs through the friction disk is too tight, or the internal linkage is binding underneath the lift cover (the part the seat spring is bolted to). If it is the nut - just loosen it up a bit. If it is the linkage - you will need to read the shop manual real good and use the "Search For" box on the top of this page, plus ask more questions. More than likely the binding will be fixable, but will require you to pull the lift cover to repair.

The good news is you got it for a good price, and if you are handy with a wrench, should not cost you much to get it right again.

Good luck,
Dan

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Paul K in IL

11-10-2005 19:22:32

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Re: Steep Learning Curve in reply to Dan, 11-10-2005 17:01:24

Since Dan took the first item, I guess I will take the second one. There are a lot of places that the slop in the steering can be coming from. The best place to start is to stand beside the tractor and wiggle the steering wheel back and forth and watch the sector arms, the drag link ends and the spindles. You will probably have slop in multiple places and all I can say is fix the worst first and then see if it acceptable for you and if not then fix the next loosest part. I am not too familiar with the sector gearbox on the 8Ns so I will leave that to someone else. If the drag link ends need to be replaced and they have not been replaced before you may have to buy a new shaft. The links came originally with one end that screws on (where the toe in adjustment is made) and one end welded to the drag link. If the one that is welded to the drag link is bad you will need to buy the new shaft. On the replacement shafts both ends screw in the link so you just buy the ends. The ends are different in the front and back though so make sure you get the correct ones.

On the spindles there are bushings that go between the spindle and the outer axle section. They are fairly easy to replace. Just take the steering arm off the top of the spindle, jack up the front of the tractor and pull the spindle out the bottom. The bushings are in the axle housing and you should be able to drive the bottom out from the top and the top one out from the bottom. Make sure when you put it back togather you don't forget the spindle thrust washer on the spindle before putting it back in the axle.

Paul K.

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BillM (OH)

11-10-2005 21:43:31

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Re: Steep Learning Curve in reply to Paul K in IL, 11-10-2005 19:22:32

Steering backlash (amount you can turn the steering wheel before anything else even moves) is somewhat adjustable on early 8N's (before #216988) by rotating the steering sector shaft housings as they are eccentric -- left side first, then right side. Later 8N's have a sector adjusting screw that you can turn in to tighten up the backlash. As to hard steering, check it all out as above to determine where the problem is, and if it's in the box, you'll have to pull the steering shaft and replace bearings, etc. Suggest you get an I&T FO4 manual and follow the procedure.

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