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Alaska Jon

12-13-2005 22:34:24

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This is way OT, but today I bought new snow tires for my F150 4X4. Picked up some Michelin X-ICE tires and they are amazing. They get better traction in 2WD than my company car does with studded snows. Best tires I've ever seen for driving here in the far north.

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Don in California

12-14-2005 12:14:22

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

"don't need no stinkin snow tires" not since I moved from Western NY to California back in 77! what I need is some x-ray superman vision to see thru the nasty winter fog we get in the valley south of Fresno!

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Bob NElson

12-14-2005 11:50:46

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

By definition an all season tire is a compromise; therefore it doesn't really do anything well. It is not a performance tire and it is not a winter tire. Every vehicle we own has 2 sets of wheels; one with performance tires and one set with snows. Unbelievable difference. I figure I will wear out more than one set of tires so why not have optimal performance? I'm only out the extra set of rims, about $250, far less than the deductable for an accident. You get far more driving confidence and safety margin. As one response points out, 4x4 is no answer. You don't stop or turn any better than anyone else. If fact, it may give you a false sense of confidence because you can accelerate better than most. Most of the vehicles I see in the median or shoulder or icy and snowy roads are 4x4s. About half of them have rolled and had all of their windows blown out!

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Stickler

12-14-2005 22:48:50

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Bob NElson, 12-14-2005 11:50:46

Most people don't realize that 4WD on ice is near useless, and actually dangerous. Anyone that's ever experienced torque steer knows what I mean. I've had 4WD's for over 30 years and never ditched yet. Ya just got to learn how to drive them. And above all..... slow down! It's always the wingnuts that go flyin' by at more than speed limit in bad weather that wind up wheels up.

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Bob - MI

12-14-2005 06:32:19

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

Snow tires are the ticket in the winter. All season tires are by definition not optimal in each extreme. Kind of like having a four-barrel carb and getting better mileage than with a 2-barrel. Most folks get by with front wheel drives without them but I found years ago that rear wheel does way better with snow tires.

Had a 1986 S-10 2wd truck that was hazardous to drive with the standard BFG TA radials on it. Snow tires would get me through almost anything and probably saved my life some days.

You will find that there are lots of opinions on this but if you need the best traction that you can get in the winter snowies are the way to go.

Keeping them mounted on their own rims saves time and money over their life too. Keeps those expensive aluminum rims looking good for summer driving. Don"t know about Alaska but we get a lot of salt on the roads here and it tears everything up due to corrosion.

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justin d

12-14-2005 05:20:36

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

I just bought my wife snow tires for her car. She had all season radials on the car and it made a huge difference after putting on the snow tires. I forget the brand, I got them at Sam"s Club for something like $56 a piece. Great investment.

I only put them on the front as it is a front wheel drive vehicle. I read an artle in the paper that said you should put them on all four wheels even on front wheel drive cars. Her problem wasn"t with sliding. Rather, it was with being able to go. Her tires would just spin on the slightest incline when she would be at a stop. Has anyone ever heard of this or is it just a scam that the tire manufacturers suggest to get you to buy two more tires?

Justin

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641er

12-14-2005 21:30:32

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to justin d, 12-14-2005 05:20:36

I only put snows on the front of our minivan last winter and did not have any problems. I did have to put them on the front myself as the tire place that mounted them would not let me drive it off their lot with the snows only on the front. They would let me drive away with the snows mounted on the back and all season radials on the front. I too wondered if the snows all the way around for a front wheel drive was a scam since I had no problems running them on the front only.

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K.LaRue-VA

12-14-2005 04:53:23

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

I've never found anything better than BF Goodrich All Terrain TA tires for the usual combination of driving we do. They are quiet on the interstate, get excellent treadwear and better traction in mud or snow than many of the special mud or snow tires.

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John in Mich(Barnstormer)

12-14-2005 03:49:21

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

Both my wife and I have 4x4 vehicles with all season tires. I have not bought snow tires in 20 years. 99% of the time we can get around just fine. Our rule is, if it is bad enough that we can't get moving, we shouldn't be going there.
Our 4x4s don't stop any better than a standard 4x2. We drive accordingly.

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duey

12-13-2005 23:28:52

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Re: Way OT: Snow Tires in reply to Alaska Jon, 12-13-2005 22:34:24

I have heard that BlizzEx(?) also perform really well. I guess it is good to have a "summer set" of wheels and tires and save the softer compounded tires for the inclement weather season.

You're right, they make a huge difference! duey

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