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The infamous ballast resistor

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Randy Bagrowski

01-05-2006 06:04:16




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I going to re-wire my '48 8n. I am going to replace the ballast resistor with two 1 ohm resistors (in parallel). Is there a nifty little gizmo that I can just plug these into? I can always wire nut everything together, or solder them or even crimp them but I like doing a "neat" job. I'm thinking of something that is like the terminal block. Any ideas?

Thanks...Randy




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Dell (WA)

01-05-2006 07:14:19




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 Re: The infamous ballast resistor in reply to Randy Bagrowski, 01-05-2006 06:04:16  
Randy..... ....DO NOT CONFUSE the "infamous ballast resistor" (necessary for the 6-volt squarecan ignition coil) and my secret "trick" 1/2-ohm current limiting resistor (2-resistors in parallel) for the modern 12-volt squarecan replacement ignition coil. Even though they are measured in ohms and are called resistors, their use and application are intirely different.

Installation of the "trick" resistor is left to the installer. (tip: twist the resistors pigtails together, solder'em, then CRIMP some matching ring-terminals to fasten the assy on the "T"-board inplace of the infamous ballast resistor) What can be so difficult with that?

Just remember, they're POWER resistors and gitt HOT. So don't let some plastic wires come in contact with the HOT resistors. Thats just common sense. DO NOT USE wirenuts, thems for houses outta the rain, inside protective boxes..... ....respectfully, Dell who knows what he is talking about

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tim in pa

01-05-2006 06:48:55




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 Lets Get This Straight! in reply to Randy Bagrowski, 01-05-2006 06:04:16  
Randy, there are 2 issues here, one is electrical connections. the best is soldering. when done correctly, i don't think can be outperformed. the second is the resistor itself. i hope you don't mind using you post to straighten some info out. i know much has been said on this board regarding the "BALLAST RESISTOR". does any person know all of the information about the ballast resistor that a person wants (or needs to know if they were to replace it with something else). for example: the OHMS value; the Wattage (or current capability); and the Thermal characteristics. I often read here that the ballast resistor possesses speciific thermal qualities (temp coefficients). i don't think i've read any post with all this info at one time. does anyone know this info?

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Dell (WA)

01-05-2006 07:52:18




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 Re: Lets Get This Straight! in reply to tim in pa, 01-05-2006 06:48:55  
Tim..... ...I appreciate yer willingness to re-design a 70yo ignition system that so many don't seem to understand. (incuding you)

And the principal reason for the "infamous ballast resistor" was (are you ready for this?) weaksister 6-volt batterys. They didn't have die-hards back in 1930's. Batterys are results of chemical reactions, chemical reactions are slowed down by COLD temperature. Therefore, Ford used a ballast resistor to INCREASE SPARKIES when it was COLD for easier starting. Simple, eh?

Gitt this straight, its called a ballast resistor because its resistance changes depending on INTERNAL temperature. It is designed to do that. And do all that auto-magically.

Somewere, I have a spec-sheet on the "infamous ballast resistor" that sez the MINIMUM resistance is 0.4-ohms and the MAXIMUM resistance is 1.7-ohms. In the electronics trade that is known as POSITIVE TEMP co-efficent. But after about 2-minutes of engine runnin' the heated-up resistance is about 1.4-ohms.

You need LAB-GRADE elecronic resistance measuring devices to accurately measure those LOW value resistances. But surprizingly enuff, even a $10 el-cheepo voltmeter is plenty accurate to measure the VOLTAGE DROP cause by that hard to read resistance.

As for WATTS rating of the ballast resistor, I believe it is 50-watts. This is very typical 2.5 times safety factor. You doubt? Typical ignition draws about 3-amps. Since POWER is as simple as PIE (Power=I (amps) times E (Electro Motive Force) nutter name for volts) Simple math calculations: P=3-amps times 6-volts = 18-WATTS. Safety factor 2.5x18=45-watts. Waddaya know? USE 50-watts design factor. Simple, eh?..... ...Dell, retired electronics engineer and certified CAL-LAB engr with 50yrs experience

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duey

01-05-2006 07:33:20




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 Re: Lets Get This Straight! in reply to tim in pa, 01-05-2006 06:48:55  
I don't have the specifics you are requesting, BUT, I can say this. . . on the original "6 volt" system, we can normally read about 6 to 6.2 volts static (not running, no load). We can expect about 7.4 volts when running and charging. We don't want to supply the old 'front-mount-square-can coil' much more than about 3 volts when warmed up and running (measured with the points closed, not easy to do when running!!!).

So the bottom line is this: 1) for a healthy, long-lived electrical system, feed a 3 cell battery 7.4 volts (6 cell battery or 12 'volt' needs 14 volts) and 2)a "6 volt" front mount square coil will "live long and prosper" on 3 volts.
3)if I understand this correctly, the "12 volt" version of the front mount square coil wants the two 1 ohm resistors (in parallel) to keep it happy at something less than the operational 14 volts of a healthy 12 volt system.
To quote YOU KNOW WHO, "Simple, eh?!!!" duey

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