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Rick H. Ga.

01-05-2006 15:51:50




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Hi All,

I've been doing more reading of posts than posting here lately. It's good to see all the newbies so enthusiastic about their N's.

Anyway, I just thought I would let you-all know that after 4 years of dial-up internet service, I finally brokedown and got DSL hi-speed internet. And, so far, I like it a lot. It is much, much faster than dial-up.

I tried to tell myself I didn't use the internet enough to justify the slightly higher cost but now I got the DSL for just a few more $ that dial-up.

I guess this is a good thing since I am always in a hurry.

Best regards to all,

Rick H. Ga.

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Ed S. (IL)

01-07-2006 05:54:55




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
Out here in MidWestern corn country, we started out on Satellite internet (through Earthlink, who was our DSL provider back in Atlanta before we moved). Speeds were okay - slower than DSL, but faster than dialup. However the $70/month cost got to be too much, so we went back to dialup over slow, noisy lines. I joked to my brothers that we had a man deliver the bytes in a truck once a week...

About six months ago, we switched over to a new-to-the-area WiFi (wireless) service, which has been great. Speeds are better than Satellite, nearly DSL. Cost is about $35/month (vs. $21/
month for dialup). We are at the very edge of their service area, but I have not noticed any performance problems...

es

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George Willer

01-06-2006 18:44:46




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I wish you guys would knock it off! My dedicated phone line and ISP combined cost $50.36/month for the usual 28K to 32K connection. Neither cable nor DSL are available, even though I can look out my window and see the county courthouse (1.8 miles), which is a block from the SBC central office.

Wireless internet has just become available (maybe), but the installation will cost $749 minimum... maybe more, assuming the signal is good enough to work.

We are at the mercy of !#$%^ SBC.

Faster speeds would make it more pleasant to moderate the tractor groups I serve.

George Willer

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John in Bama

01-06-2006 12:27:37




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
Down here with a small telco called Gulftel in South Baldwin county Alabama we have 8 meg per sec down, up is terrible. Very pricey at 44 bucks a month. Phone companies know they are in trouble with broadband over power lines coming from your elec company soon. I used to be able to get stand alone dsl lines with no phone service, but now they demand that I have a phone line. Complete rip-off, especially since I have"nt used a landline in over 5 years, but that"s how they doubled my bill. Had cable broadband for a few months, but it was down more than up. Our DSL didn"t go down during Ivan, or any of the other hurricanes we have seen in the past year, so pretty darn reliable and fast.

Just my 2 cents.

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Barry in Mi

01-06-2006 11:55:31




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I've been wired to dial up via Peoplepc for almost 6 years. Then one day at church a neighbor told me he just got DSL through Verizon.. I checked it out and am now hooked to DSL through Verizon. It's amazing how much faster my connections/downloads/ music etc is. I was paying $19.95 for a separate line for my dial up plus $11.95 for peoplepc isp hook up. With the DSL , because our phone service is already Verizon, I was able to cut the $19.95 out of the bill plus the Verizon isp is only $13.95 . So for a minus $17.95 a month I now have DSL, cha--ching!!! more N money.
Barry

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RoNofohio

01-06-2006 08:34:48




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I could have posted the same message, except I can only rec. 26.4 kbps. Here in Southern Ohio in my particular little valley, we have no cell phone service. So what did my wife want for Christmas...you guessed it. "Go" phone from Cingular..But we can use it when we are out of the area for emergencys. Makes her feel a little easier about traveling the back roads now...Ron



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RoNofohio

01-06-2006 08:38:08




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to RoNofohio, 01-06-2006 08:34:48  
Sorry, this was supposed to be posted as a tag to the post of "Bill of Ohio" at the bottom..Ron



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MikeT

01-06-2006 07:50:38




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I get around 2Mbps download speed and 500Kbps upload speed with the DSL Pro that I have. SBC is beginning to bury fiber cable in this neighborhood and when fiber is strung to each house and put in operation I expect to eventually see DSL speed increase by an order of magnitude. Probably will be called something besides DSL when that happens but I expect it will be at least 5 years before they have all new electronics in the switching stations. 100Mbps should be achievable with fiber cable.

I have not seen any downtime with my DSL here for the 5 years I've had it.

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TheOldHokie

01-06-2006 10:29:49




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to MikeT, 01-06-2006 07:50:38  
Its called FiOS by Verizon.

TOH



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Dan

01-06-2006 06:05:56




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I started with dial up, then went to dsl, then to cable - all cost me about the same amount monthly. I have loved every upgrade as I am not a patient person either (ask my wife). My dad (who is way out there in the booneys and on dial up) could not understand why I kept switching, so I gave him this analogy:

Imagine your internet connection is like driving your car on the highway. With dial up, my car was going 50 mph, with DSL my car traveled 1,500 mph, and now on cable my car travels at 6,000 mph. He understood then :-)

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Alvin Roberts (MS)

01-05-2006 18:51:18




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
Richard, what company do you have your internet service through with the antenna on the house? I have been looking for a better option than dial up. I cannot get DSL out here in the woods where I live.



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HowardUSA

01-05-2006 18:50:36




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I have SBC dialup and consistantly connect at 50.6kbs for $9.95 a month. I live in the boonies and DSL or cable is not an option. I"m retired and never in much of a hurry to do anything so the ol dialup serves me well. I would however probably upgrade is DSl ever comes here. The only time I get aggravated is when someone sends me a large attachment. It takes forever to download and is usually a joke or mpeg I"ve already seen. When I call SBC and ask them when DSl will be available their best answer is "We don"t know".
HT

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R.M. In AL

01-05-2006 18:30:46




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
Rick if you don't mind me asking which one did you go with and how much more.I have lots of trouble with dial up always have.Its $21.95 here and I only get 28Megs at best.We do have virus protection..We are kinda blocked out here unless you take Bellsouth DSL.It takes me a minute or sometimes 2 to download 3 or 4 emails..Thanks..R.M. In AL.



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Rick H. Ga.

01-06-2006 04:53:07




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to R.M. In AL, 01-05-2006 18:30:46  
I started out with a dial-up service through my local Bank. After a couple of years they decided they were in the banking business and not the ISP business.

They shifted all their ISP customers to Peoplepc ISP. I initially paid $9.95 for basic service and upgraded to the so-called accellerator option for $16.95 per month. It was OK to start with but it seemed like my internet service got slower and slower. I did have anti-virus, spyware and firewall software.

I changed to the BellSouth DSL for $24.95. I figgure it will cost me $10 to $12 more dollars a month with the hidden fees, etc...

Regards,

Rick

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Cargocult

01-05-2006 18:16:25




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I wish I could get it here!! Unfortunately the VERIZON ass***el won't up date the lines in here, and I only get 21.6 on a good day! Other times it is slow as 14.4!! Hell I get higher speeds in the PI, fer chrissakes! I hate verizon!! I really envy you folks!!! CC



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ShowMeGuy

01-05-2006 17:41:36




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
AGREED! DSL is smoking fast compared to turtle dial-up! But beware that there are more risks for hackers and virus and spyware and such that go along with it. I personally wouldn't get the service unless they gave you a router/modem that was able to do DHCP/NAT/DNS doesn't have to have mulitiple ports but is nice if you have 2 pcs in the house and both can be surfing the web at the same time. You can also get to learn how to do a web server and what not lots more at your fingertips. If you need help with Networking issues let me know. I can help. Don't confuse this with PC issues as I'm out of that line of work! :) ShowMeGuy

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TheOldHokie

01-06-2006 06:01:53




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to ShowMeGuy, 01-05-2006 17:41:36  
If you're planning on hosting a web server better check the fine print in your service agreement. My Verizon residential DSL agreement prohibits running servers on the connection. I'm not sure how agressively they police that policy but I expect to know more soon....

Also upload speeds on DSL are typically 1/10 the download speed. I get 1.72Mb down and 176Kb up on my service. So your website content is going to be slow to load on the client end. New customer offerings here are now 4Mb service but I have not yet inquired what it's going to cost me to get upgraded to that speed. I'm betting it ain't $0.00. Still no FiOS in my neighborhood 8-(

My service was installed about 2 years ago and at that time Verizon was providing Westell 2100/2200 modems which provide NAT, DNS query forwarding, and a primitive firewall. I simply plugged a 6 port ethernet switch into the modem and ran 100Mb ethernet to all the systems in my house. Sweet!Verizon also provided an expurgated version of the Westell manual which omits discussion of features they want to discourage you from using. I downloaded the unexpurgated version from the Westell site.

TOH

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maplehillfrm,pat

01-05-2006 17:16:12




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
what a thread, I was thinking about getting the dsl myself but wasnt sure if it would make a difference, I am guessing now it will, I just got i9nto my new house, right behind my old one, and have been putting it off until this time, I guess its time to get off the pott and get on the band wagon, I got another nudge from this site, how great is this place? pat



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maplehillfrm,pat

01-05-2006 17:18:02




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-05-2006 17:16:12  
oops that i9nto was not intenional just my big ol hunt and peck fingers , but it looked cool hahah



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JimNC

01-05-2006 17:08:31




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
We finally got upgraded fiber optic cable line ran out here in the boonies. I am almost ready to switch from dail-up to cable internet. Only $20 more per month. Hope it is as good as they say it tis.

Jim



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beargap

01-06-2006 05:20:18




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to JimNC, 01-05-2006 17:08:31  
We are also way out in the country, too far from any telephone switching stations to ever get DSL, but we did get cable modem service a number of years ago. It is Great! Only about $10 more than a dial-up account, as I recall, and blazingly fast. The only other rural option around here is to go with a satellite broadband connection, which is more pricey.

=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA



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midpw

01-05-2006 16:17:29




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
HEY..... there is no NO comparison

Get the DSL and never look back !!!!!



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StahlMaster

01-05-2006 16:01:27




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
Yep, you'll like it. I've got Comcast and it's great considering I've only got a 200Mhz processor.



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crazy8

01-05-2006 15:58:24




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Rick H. Ga., 01-05-2006 15:51:50  
I have dial-up, but need to upgrade. Dial-up is just getting to be useless.I think I will go with optimum on line.



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Ole country Boy

01-06-2006 18:19:34




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to crazy8, 01-05-2006 15:58:24  
Ok, I forgot to put in the link to see if high speed wireless is available in your area. The site is big, and slow to load on a dial up, but once there you can check your area for wireless service.

Link is http://www.2b-safe.org/



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Richard L. Mueller

01-05-2006 18:23:19




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to crazy8, 01-05-2006 15:58:24  
Haven"t looked into DSL as we have limited DSL service providers where I"m at...

I"m currently on a Broadband Microwave setup. There are a couple of providers in the area that provide that type of service. They install a small antenna on the roof pointing to their access point. For ±$20.00 more than what I was paying for my dialup connection (local phone company gave me an occasion 28.8 connection with my 56K modem), I have 512K download speeds. I"ll never go back to dialup. Don't know what type of speeds you can get out ot DSL, but it"s a mute subject out here as there is limited availability of DSL in my area.

Bottom line.... Do some checking around. A "wired" DSL from the cable or phone company may not the only way to get better access speeds

Richard

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Ole country Boy

01-06-2006 07:32:06




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Richard L. Mueller, 01-05-2006 18:23:19  
Richard,, WELL Done sir!!! We looked into the microwave type highspeed and love the idea. I called all three that say they have service in my area. One did an onsite survey and told me I was just outside their service area. The other two while they show my area in their service area, do not have it here.

I would love to get that service with the small antenna, but it seems to me that the ones provideing it in this area are way over advertizing what and who they can provide.

Like most people out in the boonies, no highspeed dial up, no cable, no nada, cept dial up, 28,800 at that.

Oh well, maybe with the second Coming something will open up.

Side bar note, pray for me!!! My new kick b**t Dell computer arrived yesterday!! Got it running, but shoot, since my memory robbing stroke couple years ago, having problems moving stuff over and getting it working right. I did get it on the network enough to make one of my network printers work, but can not for the life of me get it to see my old computer so I can copy over all my good stuff. :-(

May have to break down and call in a geek.

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JoePilot

01-06-2006 08:41:28




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Ole country Boy, 01-06-2006 07:32:06  
Is your new Dell a WinXP machine? Try this: take your new WinXP CD and put it in each of the other PCs on your LAN (yes, even if they are Win98/2K/etc). Run the Network setup wizard. This will give the option of turning on file and print sharing, which will install the File and Print sharing driver. Then bring up Windows Explorer, or My Computer. For each device or folder you want to share on a particular machine, right click on it (in the folders pane) and select the "sharing and security..." option. This will allow you do set permissions and such.

Good luck!

Joe

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BillM (OH)

01-05-2006 22:10:53




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to Richard L. Mueller, 01-05-2006 18:23:19  
Richard: I'm stuck with dialup @ 44kbps out here -- too far from the switch for DSL, too damn expensive for satellite & cable (already have sat TV service and don't want to go to cable for TV), so microwave @ $20 sound great -- I don't know that there's any providers here, however -- have not heard of any -- can't get the cell tower either... Where/who from did you get your service?



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FarmerDawn

01-06-2006 08:14:15




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to BillM (OH), 01-05-2006 22:10:53  
Bill, check with the company that provides your satellite TV service. LOTS of them now will add on satellite broadband for your computer for a small increase in your monthly fee plus installation cost for a newer, larger antenna dish!! :-)



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RoNofohio

01-06-2006 08:42:30




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to FarmerDawn, 01-06-2006 08:14:15  
I checked with "DireceTV" a couple of months ago and they wanted $600 up front plus $50-60/month for sat. service. But, it seems that they have so many programs going at any given time that sometimes it just depends on when and who you talk to....Ron



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FarmerDawn

01-06-2006 08:50:29




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 Re: DSL vs. Dial-Up in reply to RoNofohio, 01-06-2006 08:42:30  
Ow, that's pricey!! Well, here's hoping maybe there will be a sale or special promo! Yikes!

We couldn't get that kind of service out here, and our phone line was far too poor to use dial-up; it literally wouldn't stay connected. (I had dial-up of 28.8 in TX and it was WAY worse than that.) So we had to go with Agristar, which does satellite broadband for computers, mostly for agri-business. It's pretty darned expensive, but we have ALL our machines on it and can do different things at different times. And it's essential for the web work our non-profit does. But I'd hoped the standard companies were cheaper. :-(

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