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9n newbie (part 4)

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ronjoh

01-22-2006 12:08:39




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Re my clutch housing leak. As per Dell’s instructions, I removed the bottom bolt from the 6” round dipstick plate and to my surprise about ½ to ¾ of a quart of tranny oil drained out. I am wondering if there was in fact an overfill problem or could water have somehow leaked into the tranny housing? The was no apparent sign of water in what came out but possibly water would sit on the bottom.? Would it be unusual, for example, for water to leak in from the shift lever?

In my conversion to 12 volt do I still require the “infamous” ballast resistor?

Do I remove the (9N) cut out relay ?

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Ron

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ronjoh

01-22-2006 17:53:41




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 Re: 9n newbie (part 4) in reply to ronjoh, 01-22-2006 12:08:39  
I really do try to do some research before asking these silly questions. I seem to have the short version of the I&T Ford Shop manual no. FO-4 (39 pages). I did spot a much more detailed version in a store (with picture of tractor on front). I promise I will purchase it, but first needed to confirm mine was different!

Dell, I can't find any reference to a hydro-pump. Can you be more specific or I perhaps my new FO-4 will have more information.

I did previously admit I was weak in automotive electronics so my installation instruction were not perfectly clear (and I did commit to religiously follow the instructions). The instructions indicate to remove the voltage regulator. I thought the cut out relay was the same but I was not 100% sure.

The instructions show a (key) on/of switch. I don't intend on removing the existing ballast resistor on/off (kill) switch, but wondering if it needed replacing, would a simple on/off switch suffice (the ballast resistor switch looks like it's about 45 years old - and it could possibly last for another 45 years).

The kit did come with a replacement 12 volt coil and an additional resistor.

Appreciate all the help. thanks
Ron

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Dell (WA)

01-22-2006 22:28:04




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 Re: 9n newbie (part 4) in reply to ronjoh, 01-22-2006 17:53:41  
Ron..... ..iff'n I said water pump, you would know what/where that is, right? Iff'n I said oil pump, you would know what/where that is, right? (even iff you can't see it, or know what it looks like) Iff'n I said hydraulic pump, you would know what/where that is, right? So why does the contracted word hydro-pump throw you? Where do you think the hydro-pump should be?

You're lucky I didn't say anything about the fuel pump. What? The gravity fed fuel system has a fuel pump? You didn't know that? (grin)

What? yer 12v conversion kit didn't make it clear that the 2-terminal roundcan cut-off relay is REMOVED when you convert to 12v alternator system. Amazingly enuff, even the 8N's 4-wire squarecan voltage regulator (which you don't have) has a "cut-out" relay inside it. The cut-out relay is NOT a voltage regulator; it just disconnects the genny from the battery when the genny stops gennin' so the battery doesn't die overnite.

You write..... ."The instructions show a (key) on/of switch. I don't intend on removing the existing ballast resistor on/off (kill) switch"..... .Now why would you think you need to remove the existing kill switch? That is just a simple key operated on/off switch that you RE-USE by re-wiring the electrical harness as per yer religiously followed instructions. Re-read yer instructions..... .....respectfully, preacher Dell

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Bob

01-22-2006 19:11:44




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 Re: 9n newbie (part 4) in reply to ronjoh, 01-22-2006 17:53:41  
In your old 39-page FO-4, the hydraulic pump is detailed on pages 36 through 39.

Once again, if they REALLY sent you a "12-Volt" square can coil, you DO NOT use the original ballast resistor, just a new resistor of about 1/2 Ohm.



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ronjoh

01-22-2006 20:12:18




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 Re: 9n newbie (part 4) in reply to Bob, 01-22-2006 19:11:44  
Thanks Bob

This stuff is all new to me. I'm having a little trouble reading AND understanding. Appreciate everyones patience with us new guys.

Ron



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Dell (WA)

01-22-2006 12:50:53




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 Re: 9n newbie (part 4) in reply to ronjoh, 01-22-2006 12:08:39  
Ron..... ...yep, OVERFILL. and yep, probably leaky tranny shifter boot. and yep, oil floats on water (but you knew that, didn't you?) And while you can and should drain yer hydro-pump, you should start with the small square diffy drain FIRST 'cuz it peees with some accuracy innnna buckett. Then drain yer 3" tranny plug. And FINALY drain yer 3" hydro-pump. Iff'n you start yer drain routine with the 3" hydro-pump, yer gonnna spill 5-gallons of hydro-oil all over the floor. (trust me)

TIP: boil yer new rubber tranny shifter boot ($10, cheap) to make it soft and pliable for installation.

The 6-volt 2-terminal roundcan cut-off relay is NOT NEEDED for 12-volt alternators with built-in cut-out diodes.

Ron, you promised me that iff'n I let you convert to 12-volts, you'd religiously follow the 12-volt kit installation instructions. Why are you sinning? (grin)..... ...preacher Dell, a 12v advocate for the right reasons

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Bob

01-22-2006 12:17:43




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 Re: 9n newbie (part 4) in reply to ronjoh, 01-22-2006 12:08:39  
After the tractor has been sitting at least overnight, carefully loosen your drain plugs a little. Any water will be at the bottom, and drip out first. Try that, and you'll know if any water has sneaked in there.

If you are converting to 12-Volts, and keeping the original coil, typically, you retain the original ballast resistor, and add, in series, a "converting resistor" of about 1.6 Ohms.



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