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Cutout Relay Modified

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1chano

01-26-2006 04:35:50




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Just saw a photo in (parts and pieces section) of a cutout modified by Rick from TX. He uses a bridge rectifier from Radio shack for the guts on the cutout. Has any body else used this method? Would it work better or would it be better to just buy another cutout. I look at radio shack and it listed the bridge Rec. for approx $4




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1chano

01-26-2006 20:05:39




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 Re: Cutout Relay Modified in reply to 1chano, 01-26-2006 04:35:50  
Thanks for all the replys, and good info



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david b guest

01-26-2006 19:25:29




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 Re: Cutout Relay Modified in reply to 1chano, 01-26-2006 04:35:50  
How bout that special grease when mounting diode?Forgot what it is but think you needs it. DG



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souNdguy

01-26-2006 20:51:05




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 Re: Cutout Relay Modified in reply to david b guest, 01-26-2006 19:25:29  
Heat sink grease ( silicone grease compound.. etc.. ).. good thermal transfer properties... not 100% necescary in a situation where you are running 50% of rated load.. but never hurts anyway.. etc..

Soundguy



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souNdguy

01-26-2006 06:48:12




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 Re: Cutout Relay Modified in reply to 1chano, 01-26-2006 04:35:50  
Your call. Bridge rectifier is just 4 diodes aranged in a fashion so that you could input an ac signal and get a dc signal output a little less 'fuzzy' than using a single diode.. thus full wave and not half wave. I think I would try to parallel up 2 of the diodes in the bridge, so as not to be going thru 2 diodes in series ( and the extra forward voltage drop ).. or i would simply use 1 diode out of the bridge.. it will be rated for the total current the bridge is handling... or just purchases a couple epoxy rectifiers and parallel them.. etc. They make them in 4a and 6a varieties. Considering 9n/2n gennies crank out 11a .. 2 diodes just barele exceede that.. and 3 gives you a beefy safety factor.

The diode is a semiconductor.. think of it as a 1-way switch for current.

IMHO... I like oem equipment.. but I wouldn't be afraid of either.

I've made other semi-electronic conversions in place of voltage regulators, substituting a couple different value resistors, and relays to make a regulator that had a hi charge side, lo charge side, and 'off' that worked automagically, without a diode.. though in retrospect.. I could have added a diode instead of making a cutout scheme using either a couple spst relay or a dpdt relay and a simple compairing control circuit... etc.

Soundguy

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Bob

01-26-2006 08:29:37




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 Re: Cutout Relay Modified in reply to souNdguy, 01-26-2006 06:48:12  
S.G.,

I like his idea of using the rectifier bridge, if it had been done a little differently, and the rectifier was mounted right to the metal frame of the cutout, for heat sinking. Instead, it appears to be mounted on a thick plastic insulator.

(For those not familiar with those rectifiers, there typically is an exposed metal surface at one side, for heat sink mounting, and having that in contact with the cutout's base would provide an extra margin of safety, by keeping the unit's temp down. Yes, it's rated at 25 Amps, but that rating would be "with adequate heat sinking".)

And, like you said, why not connect it so as to spread the load over 2 of the internal diodes, rather than just one, as he has done.

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