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Redly1

01-27-2006 14:07:06

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After several months, a boatload of machine work and about a thousand dollars in parts spent on my 1940 9N engine, a fatality occured while i was tourqing down the head. The two outside corners (Carberator side)cracked and broke out at the head stud. My dilema is, can this be repaired by welding or should i find a good used block and start all over? I thought about parting it out on E-BAY but i was so close i would really like to hear it run. Has this happened to anyone else out there and if so please remit some feed back. Thanks for listening, Brian

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crazy8

01-28-2006 10:51:42

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

Man does that s*!%.

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Gaspump

01-28-2006 07:57:06

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

Sorry about the block problem. They can be welded but I would only have it done by a shop that has a lot of expieriance doing it. It may be less expensive to buy another block, check it out. WARNING: Anyone replacing heads on N engines must be certain the bolts (or studs) are of correct length, no dirt oil or crud remains in the hole, never over oil the bolts too much just a few drops. Why because usually it is hydrulic pressure caused bu the bolt being torqued down when it has no place to go due to the hole being filled with liquid or dirt. In short the result is a block corner breaking off.

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vtscott

01-27-2006 18:22:00

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

Brian,

"I feel for ya man," I read your post and my heart skipped a beat. I can't imagine being so close and having such a setback. Not quite a fatality, she will live again!

Hang in there,
Scott

P.S. Bob, well said abuot the spilling, it really doesn't mettar, if you can reed it.

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Bob Harvey

01-27-2006 16:59:32

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

Find a GOOD / TRUSTWORTHY ( probably your local guy) machinist / welder and have him apply Nirod 55 (product # may have been updated). The process involves heating the block, applying the arc welding rod (Nirod 55), then filing,/ grinding away the excess, if the head mating surface is compromised by the crack/chunk, it will still be cheaper to repair than buying a new block. Hey, some sites offer "crate type engines" for a mere $2400.00 Hmmnn.....P.S. It took longer to 'spell check' (some guys should just s..t t.. f... up)

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murn-ga

01-27-2006 17:14:45

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Bob Harvey, 01-27-2006 16:59:32

Thought I had the answer for him, but decided to shut the f--k up.

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joe from wi

01-27-2006 16:43:48

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

i would try to braze it. if u r careful, it should be o.k. mine was cracked on front left by water pump vertically about 4" and 2" horizontal just in front of serial# use a 1/8 carbide bit on a die grinder and "V" it before u braze. pull studs, go back to ur mach shop n mill off braze flush with deck. should be o.k. good luck... joe

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Rick H. Ga.

01-27-2006 16:38:32

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

I can't say I have had the same experience but if it is any consolation to you...there are always risk involved in doing heavy mechanic/engine rebuilding work.

With the advancement in welding and joining technology today, I would think it could be repaired. HTH Rick

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Bob - MI

01-27-2006 14:47:36

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Re: Block Repair in reply to Redly1, 01-27-2006 14:07:06

Can"t speak for the repair procedure but frankly I have been afraid to rebuild my 2N because of some of these kinds of horror stories that have been posted. My guess is that the block repair route isn"t going to work on this one. You may want to spend some time searching the archives for other"s tales of woe and sometimes success. There have been some postings concerning furnace brazing both here on the N board and on the tractor talk side of things.

Either way, my best wishes for your success on this.

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